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This could be better for the GOP in the long term

GOP slept on election fraud and will be forced to face it now



They slept on the false claims, as they should, you’re right.
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I understand that. That's the "simple" part.
The complex part is the things I mentioned above.

The most dangerous part is the part I bolded. Once you start allowing any entities, anywhere, to disregard the 1st amendment, it won't be long before it falls apart.


Every private entity has always been allowed to disregard the first amendment. It has always been for the government.
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Every private entity has always been allowed to disregard the first amendment. It has always been for the government.




Social media platforms are NOT considered private entities. You know this. Have some coffee.
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Quote (Ghot @ Jan 6 2021 10:08am)
Social media platforms are NOT considered private entities. You know this. Have some coffee.


You are exactly wrong lol. Courts have always explicitly upheld that social media is a private entity. Most recently PragerU vs Youtube was thrown out on the exact basis.
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Jan 6 2021 10:17am
Quote (Ghot @ Jan 6 2021 10:08am)
Social media platforms are NOT considered private entities. You know this. Have some coffee.


That's funny:

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/FB:NASDAQ?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimtc-m2ofuAhUBP60KHd5MDVoQ_AUoAXoECAQQAw
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/TWTR:NYSE?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCxeOt2YfuAhXImq0KHXjICNQQ_AUoAXoECAQQAw
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2021 11:12am)
You are exactly wrong lol. Courts have always explicitly upheld that social media is a private entity. Most recently PragerU vs Youtube was thrown out on the exact basis.




Actually, they upheld that social media was NOT considered a publisher.
Have some coffee bro... seriously. :)



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I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
But the point about Section 230 is that it's disallowing liability for censorship.

I don't know about you folks, but I don't think we need talk police.


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Quote (Ghot @ Jan 6 2021 10:18am)
Actually, they upheld that social media was NOT considered a publisher.
Have some coffee bro... seriously. :)


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Oh, I get it... shifting the goal posts.

Good pic, wrong person. I let myself be sucked in to Thor's shifting of the goal posts, earlier.
I'm following an Instacart order, so I'm not paying attention like I should.

Censorship is BAD. Section 230 allows censorship with no liability.


I mean, what's next... burning books that may have a word or phrase that some "group" has a problem with?

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Quote (Ghot @ Jan 6 2021 10:18am)
Actually, they upheld that social media was NOT considered a publisher.
Have some coffee bro... seriously. :)


You can be a private entity And be not a publisher.

Being a publisher is irrelevant to whether the first amendment applies to hosting content
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 6 2021 11:32am)
You can be a private entity And be not a publisher.

Being a publisher is irrelevant to whether the first amendment applies to hosting content




Your earlier point that lots of private entities do it already...is not correct.

You can refuse service for various reasons, but you can CENSOR folks that aren't breaking the law.
You may want to live in that lkind of world... but I don't.

By the same token...I don't want to run around offending people. But if I accidentally do so... I don't expect to be arrested or sued...or w/e.


If you can't see the danger in the c2A part of Section 230...well then I can't make it any clearer.
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