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Oct 15 2020 02:02pm
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 15 2020 09:43pm)
It isn't much of a bombshell. I'm pretty sure every president's kid has gotten a cushy job at a place they probably wouldn't have gotten a job at.

Trump actually brought his kids into the White House who worked on a temporary security clearance that they couldn't get passed and revoked 13 months later. They spent over a year trying to get Kushner cleared and they couldn't, while he worked on important things and was put in charge of the federal covid response, which has been a disaster and will have to be decided whether it was criminal or not after his daddy is out of office.

I'm looking right at this, and it looks like this guy got a job because of privilege which is how a lot of people get their jobs when they are in rich families.

You guys are such shitty republicans. It is so surprising that people so weak espouse darwinism lol.

Ethically the biggest problem is Dual Roles. Biden Jr wasn't being anything but Son to his father and employee to Burisma. You have Kushner who is dual son and political advisor. For anybody familiar with professional ethics this is a dual role, and is a problem because it prevents objectivity.

Your line of thought is any politicians son or daughter shouldn't travel or work abroad, which is absurd.

You need some evidence of wrongdoing and not Project Veritas level stuff.

Always funny when rich people smoke crack.


Get real. Hunter Biden didn't get a job, he got payed for access to his VP daddy and arranged a meeting between an exec from that corrupt Ukrainian company and Joe Biden, according to those emails found on Joe Bidens laptop, apparently.

The juicy stuff is that Joe Biden has always strongly denied that such things had happened. If these emails are real he should be toast lol

Then there's the 1B blackmail attempt to try prevent Ukraine from further investigating that corrupt company which will draw renewed attention also. Interesting days ahead buddy, better grab some popcorn.



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Oct 15 2020 02:03pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 15 2020 05:00pm)
I'm kind of in "wait and see" mode on this story. The story is suspect for a bunch of reasons, but now that legitimate journalists are digging we'll soon know more. Even assuming that the email material is accurate, which it very well may be, I don't see how it's substantively different from what we already knew. Hunter Biden has drug problems, he got a position at Burisma because of his last name, and Biden helped force Shokin out as part of a multilateral Western effort. Whether Biden brushed up against some Burisma executives isn't that big of a story.

The Trump cult has been so starved for scandals with Biden that they're now pretending this is a bombshell. It's not anything close to one. Trump's closing argument being one not focused on COVID, immigration, trade, or the economy, but the rich and powerful(and their privileged offspring) using their influence to make money is insanely hypocritical and ridiculous. This is a narrative that works on people who already hate Biden and love Trump.

Btw, the cultists here wouldn't even entertain a story like this if the source of it was so insanely discredited(a Trump cult computer repair guy who thinks Seth Rich got killed by Hillary's minions) and Trump's nutty, alcoholic lawyer who works with people who get sanctioned by the U.S. treasury for being Russian agents.


it's all a television show
wait and see is essentially what it is about - reference is my post regarding the towers
the reason why the towers fell so that kids and men and women would watch television in india
in brazil
in russia
in bagledesh

that's the whole reason

c'mon man

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Oct 15 2020 02:16pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 15 2020 03:00pm)
I'm kind of in "wait and see" mode on this story. The story is suspect for a bunch of reasons, but now that legitimate journalists are digging we'll soon know more. Even assuming that the email material is accurate, which it very well may be, I don't see how it's substantively different from what we already knew. Hunter Biden has drug problems, he got a position at Burisma because of his last name, and Biden helped force Shokin out as part of a multilateral Western effort. Whether Biden brushed up against some Burisma executives isn't that big of a story.

The Trump cult has been so starved for scandals with Biden that they're now pretending this is a bombshell. It's not anything close to one. Trump's closing argument being one not focused on eliminating COVID, immigration, trade, or the economy, but the rich and powerful(and their privileged offspring) using their influence to make money is insanely hypocritical and ridiculous. This is a narrative that works on people who already hate Biden and love Trump.

Btw, the cultists here wouldn't even entertain a story like this on Trump if the source of it was so insanely discredited(a Trump cult computer repair guy who thinks Seth Rich got killed by Hillary's minions) and Trump's nutty, alcoholic lawyer who works with people who get sanctioned by the U.S. treasury for being Russian agents.


its also a bit funny to me that a president goes and gets on his knees for the Saudi's to get good oil/gas prices and no one bats an eye, but you get involved with a Ukrainian gas/oil company and people lose their minds.

i still have yet anyways to see a substantive connection between Biden/Burisma, and if there is one how that differs from Trump golfing with any number of various CEOs.
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Oct 15 2020 02:16pm
Like I said previously, the real story here is how Big Tech felt the need to unleash a full-throttled censorship effort to suppress a relative nothingburger story. One-sided, partisan censorship against conservatives imho is a much bigger story for the Republican base, and potentially for GOP-leaning swing voters, than the actual Hunter Biden stuff. People typically dont respond well to efforts to silence their voices. Not at all.
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Oct 15 2020 02:18pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 15 2020 03:16pm)
Like I said previously, the real story here is how Big Tech felt the need to unleash a full-throttled censorship effort to suppress a relative nothingburger story. One-sided, partisan censorship against conservatives imho is a much bigger story for the Republican base, and potentially for GOP-leaning swing voters, than the actual Hunter Biden stuff. People typically dont respond well to efforts to silence their voices. Not at all.


It might be if there was a solution on the table, but I've never seen a realistic way to stop it that doesnt shatter the internet as we know it.
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Oct 15 2020 02:22pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 15 2020 04:16pm)
Like I said previously, the real story here is how Big Tech felt the need to unleash a full-throttled censorship effort to suppress a relative nothingburger story. One-sided, partisan censorship against conservatives imho is a much bigger story for the Republican base, and potentially for GOP-leaning swing voters, than the actual Hunter Biden stuff. People typically dont respond well to efforts to silence their voices. Not at all.


I think most right-wingers are focusing on this aspect of the story because the rest is just Trump's Ukrainegate defense with a few extra emails thrown in.

This all is way too online though to be a successful strategy to close out a campaign. My guess is Biden and his campaign understand that and will respond accordingly.
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Oct 15 2020 02:23pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 15 2020 04:16pm)
Like I said previously, the real story here is how Big Tech felt the need to unleash a full-throttled censorship effort to suppress a relative nothingburger story. One-sided, partisan censorship against conservatives imho is a much bigger story for the Republican base, and potentially for GOP-leaning swing voters, than the actual Hunter Biden stuff. People typically dont respond well to efforts to silence their voices. Not at all.


Not a story because this shit has been happening for quite a while now.

It's the same level as the Russia collusion stuff in some ways. Difference is the powers that be wanted to push and publicize one of these while the other will die in the depths of the internet.
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Oct 15 2020 02:23pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 15 2020 04:16pm)
i still have yet anyways to see a substantive connection between Biden/Burisma, and if there is one how that differs from Trump golfing with any number of various CEOs.


Obviously you haven't read Goom's 4d geopolitical chess take on this.
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Oct 15 2020 02:23pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 15 Oct 2020 22:16)
Like I said previously, the real story here is how Big Tech felt the need to unleash a full-throttled censorship effort to suppress a relative nothingburger story. One-sided, partisan censorship against conservatives imho is a much bigger story for the Republican base, and potentially for GOP-leaning swing voters, than the actual Hunter Biden stuff. People typically dont respond well to efforts to silence their voices. Not at all.


you mean like an administration purposefully undermining public trust in media outlets that dare to report critically about it, resulting not only in a significant erosion of said trust, but also multiple serious terror threats against the outlets the administration targeted?
or does that only apply to private companies choosing not to spread dodgy information that is clearly just a desperate political hack job, in order to influence an upcoming election?

the doublethink with you people really is on another level...
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Oct 15 2020 02:24pm
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 15 2020 03:23pm)
Obviously you haven't read Goom's 4d geopolitical chess take on this.


i asked him specifically how Biden and Burisma are connected in this, i received a couple paragraphs not containing the word "burisma", said as much, and didnt hear back.

classic case of 1 + 1 = 3
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