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Jan 4 2020 06:45pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 5 Jan 2020 01:37)
>going through congress to protect a treaty would not have protected a treaty if congress chose not to protect that treaty

Truly profound, Heinrich descendant of Geobbels


i don't know if you're just being your usual hacky self, goon-shill, or if your reading comprehension is that bad, but that is not at all what i'm saying. what i'm saying is that going through congress would not have protected the treaty. the comment concerning GOP obstructionism is merely additional information explaining WHY obama didn't even try. your strawman is simply a result of you not being able to distinguish those two different points. the first one would still be true even IF republicans had not been complete obstructionist cunts during obama's presidency.

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Jan 4 2020 07:26pm
Quote (excellence @ 5 Jan 2020 00:13)
https://twitter.com/Kaepernick7/status/1213553331181764608

America's village idiot (who was abandoned by his biological father before he was born and profits to the tune of multiple millions of dollars a year off near-slave labor conditions in 3rd world countries) provides the (D) response to recent events


lmao!

now, the icing on the cake would be Jimmy G leading the 49ers to a Super Bowl victory while Kaepernick sits on his couch crying himself to sleep. :rofl:
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Jan 4 2020 07:54pm
Quote (excellence @ Jan 4 2020 07:16pm)
he (fender aka heinrich) doesn't understand how our laws and procedures work. the only document he understands is the book 'my struggle'


Haha
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Jan 4 2020 08:09pm
Quote (fender @ Jan 4 2020 06:45pm)
i don't know if you're just being your usual hacky self, goon-shill, or if your reading comprehension is that bad, but that is not at all what i'm saying. what i'm saying is that going through congress would not have protected the treaty. the comment concerning GOP obstructionism is merely additional information explaining WHY obama didn't even try. your strawman is simply a result of you not being able to distinguish those two different points. the first one would still be true even IF republicans had not been complete obstructionist cunts during obama's presidency.


Try actually reading the links you post, especially the parts people quote for you from the links you post.
You cited a source talking about a supreme court precedent saying that if congress declines to protect a treaty then going through congress doesn't protect that treaty.
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Jan 4 2020 08:16pm
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Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.


It seems the issue isn't with the decision itself but with who made the decision.

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Jan 4 2020 08:23pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 4 Jan 2020 21:09)
Try actually reading the links you post, especially the parts people quote for you from the links you post.
You cited a source talking about a supreme court precedent saying that if congress declines to protect a treaty then going through congress doesn't protect that treaty.


:D :lol: :thumbsup:
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Jan 4 2020 09:39pm
look like the asshole-in-chief elected by meow-IQ is doing well to distract from his impeachment. :rofl:
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Jan 4 2020 09:59pm
Truly shocking how many of my liberal dipwad friends aren't just upset by what happened to the general. They are in grief and cannot be disturbed
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Quote (nekrotic @ 4 Jan 2020 17:42)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYehL0js334


Probably a good move by Trump to throw out big threats to Iran in an attempt to scare away any retaliation. We can't afford a war. Sometimes waving the big stick around works. It worked with North Korea to force a meeting.

If we are going to pump so much money into defense at the expense of the rest of our country, we mine as well wield its might.
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Jan 5 2020 02:07am
Quote (Goomshill @ 5 Jan 2020 03:09)
Try actually reading the links you post, especially the parts people quote for you from the links you post.
You cited a source talking about a supreme court precedent saying that if congress declines to protect a treaty then going through congress doesn't protect that treaty.


so now it's the source that allegedly (not really, you're just illiterate) claimed the ridiculous strawman you suggested i made.
nice try distracting from the fact that you couldn't even distinguish between the two seperate points i made, and ended up creating that abomination of trumptard 'logic' for lack of a real argument, goon-shill.

Quote (fuzzy159 @ 5 Jan 2020 03:16)
It seems the issue isn't with the decision itself but with who made the decision.


obama's use of drones is most certainly a massive stain on his record, and the main issue (of course there are more) with his foreign policy. unlike bush, he of course did not fabricate evidence in order to start a multi trillion dollar war, he 'just' failed to clean up the incredible mess his predecessor left him in the middle east, but that does of course not excuse the war crimes committed under his leadership.

that said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

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President Donald Trump has revoked a policy set by his predecessor requiring US intelligence officials to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones. [...]

There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office

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