I'm not gonna go digging through all the evidence, and all the later BS about these attacks via plane.

I can tell you one thing about planes though. they can do a lot more than 99% of the people in the world expect. I too believed they were steel and aluminum behemoths that could barely stay airborne. Mainly because when I grew up that was almost the norm.

But somewhere around 40 years ago I was watching a film made by the military about some of the little known things about airplanes, including passenger planes. The thing the left me awestruck was when they showed how (during testing of the wings on a new plane, like a 747 for example), they would bend the wings UP, until the tips of the opposing wings touched each other.

After seeing a FILM of that happening, I stopped worrying about what planes could do and couldn't do.

That wasn't all either. I spent a year on the last Aleutian Island, while in the military. Everything we had came by plane or chopper. I saw planes do stuff that no one would believe without having seen it themselves.


Just sayin...

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 18 2018 08:18am

God damn proofread your posts. I can't make heads or tails of this jibberyjoo

as soon as it gets away from science and into "just think about it, the govt has reason to lie and the power to cover all this up" territory i tap out.

10/10 would read again



I have no idea why you're trying so hard my friend. No one can prove anything 100% sure.
Is this censed to proof Mohammed and his disabled friends were able to perform the same things on this video ?
Cant we just have our own opinion lol

This post was edited by Melatonina on Sep 18 2018 10:46am

Flying isn't difficult, only the landing is, and dealing with any possible mishap during flight. Mostly because aircraft correct them selves through dynamic stability, learning to fly a glider takes less time than learning to drive a car. I flew gliders, landed Cessnas, gave simulator lessons with an 747 cockpit, as an intro for first year students. not that I'm a licensed instructor, but just because it's so damn easy once you are a bit familiar with the controls. Hitting a building at low height is a piece of cake. Please think about that all the forces acting on a plane and possible maximum maneuvers, are possible to calculate, especially with our current flow dynamics software. They become complex due to the structure of an airplane being complex and flow dynamics even more. Computer aided stress calculations are mandatory to predict what will happen. Obviously maximum operating limits are thoroughly incorporated in flight simulators, an aircraft might have a margin over it, but the simulator will actually show failure due to over stressing the craft, and while you have a point that it's still an estimation. It still is a pretty damn accurate one. The same argument can be made for Newton's laws whom are flawed at the core. Yet accurate enough, to rely on it, unless there is proof to adjust the theory, and that specifically is not happening here.

From everything I see, the whole operation of the craft, seems to have happened, within the predicted calculations of what is possible.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 18 2018 11:19am

i'm not trying hard at all, that was just a quick youtube search.

we can all have our opinions, but you came in here and called us all sheep who only believe what the govt is telling us. then said the physics wouldnt allow this to work. that video shows the planes in question doing some wild shit. now you're saying that arabs wouldnt have been highly trained enough to do it.

i have no problems with your opinion, just trying to figure out what it is. if you dont wanna talk any further on the subject that's fine too tho. i'd steer clear of surf/santara when it comes to planes tho, they know their planes.

Crazy? Let's examine ordinary flight operations, like for example when inbound flights at an airport get stacked up and aircraft have to enter holding patterns while awaiting their turn to land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holding_(aeronautics)

Note especially how it says aircraft are to fly straight for 1 minute, make a 180 degree turn over another minute, fly straight for another minute, and make another 180 degree turn over the last minute of a 4 minute cycle that makes a racing track shape in the sky. They turn 180 degrees in a minute, and they also do so without shaking up the passengers in the slightest. Turning an extra 90 degrees in the same time frame is entirely reasonable for a pilot who is unconcerned about the comfort of the passengers and EASILY within the capabilities of the aircraft. There is NOTHING extraordinary about the approach to the Pentagon. It is entirely mundane.