I've not heard of any tweets so far, so I'm still giving this as a small victory for Trump.

Let's hope it holds, but I'm not too hopeful considering Trump's history.

But then again, he loves bullies, so he might not tweet shit about Kim.

The US has bases in Japan already. China would be pretty foolish to try to "roll over Japan" with a US presence there.

Why would though? They got what they always wanted: a guarantee that the Americans cant just come in and overthrow their regime. Previously, before they had nukes, they benefitted from delaying tactics. Not anymore. Now, they want concessions, they want a lift on the sanctions, they more foreign money and products coming into the country. Unliike in pre-nuke-times, knocking everything they had built up down again by trash-talking wouldnt benefit them anymore.

not to mention getting booted off of every notable council, trading agreement, etc they're in. Russia took major shit for rolling onto Ukraine. China's war is predominantly economic, so i'd like to say Ghot is suggesting an economic war but my god i can't think that dumb if i try.



how many time would you guess since the start of the nuclear program that the DPPK has promised to disband the program, gotten concessions, and then restarted the program?

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Trump looks at his phone
He sees Twitter
He remembers those short orgasmic moments from every tweet

Hello darkness my old friend

It's difficult to see what will come out of the summit yet. I'm cautiously optimistic, but the joint statement released by Trump and Kim is pretty vague.

On one hand, it's a historic opportunity for the United States to potentially begin to denuclearize North Korea.

On the other hand, it's potentially giving legitimacy to a brutal North Korean regime who has no honest intention to denuclearize. It seems unnecessary and counter-intuitive for Trump to lavish this much praise toward Kim.

Politically speaking, it's hard to know for certain what can or cannot be attributed to Trump himself, but you have to give him some credit for getting this far, I think.

That said, if North Korea makes no honest efforts to denuclearize, today could be a loss for world peace and the United States. We could be giving up a military presence on the peninsula for nothing.


Tl;dr: Nearly impossible to know the outcome of this summit yet. Joint statement was vague and unspecific.

even in the most pessimistic perspective where trump is a dangerous wildman speaking too rashly his rhetoric has had an effect on making the meeting happen.

the only real possibility where trump had literally zero effect is that the regime utterly failed in their nuclear program, all the equipment was lost, and they're unable to buy/make new equipment, and dont want to be exposed. but they'd likely try to saber rattle to buy some time if that was the case, unless the mountain failed longer ago than we got reported.

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Yeah, I know. I meant they would just move the 28K troops there.
They need to be close by. China does have serious designs on the South China Sea, and anyone that opposes them.

There is also a big brouhaha building with Taiwan as well. China could overrun Taiwan before we could get troops there, unless they were close.

god damnit....

LOL