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Jul 7 2014 07:08pm
Quote (Many_Names @ 8 Jul 2014 00:43)
Instead of arguing like tards... Tell me what do you suggest?


a nice start would be if israel would remove all illegal settlements from the occupied territories
any move towards that would immediately improve israel's credibility
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Jul 7 2014 07:11pm
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a nice start would be if israel would remove all illegal settlements from the occupied territories
any move towards that would immediately improve israel's credibility


How can a settlement be illegal when Israel is the only valid state in the reason and they are the ones forming the laws?
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Jul 7 2014 07:37pm
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How can a settlement be illegal when Israel is the only valid state in the reason and they are the ones forming the laws?


because some settlements are considerate illegal by the state of Israel itself

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Jul 7 2014 08:23pm
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a nice start would be if israel would remove all illegal settlements from the occupied territories
any move towards that would immediately improve israel's credibility


This doesn't give enough attention to Israel's security concerns, though.

Sure, it's a catch-22, but Israel needs security and the West Bank provides it (i.e. strategic depth).
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Jul 7 2014 09:41pm
proof?
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Jul 7 2014 10:02pm
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This doesn't give enough attention to Israel's security concerns, though.
Sure, it's a catch-22, but Israel needs security and the West Bank provides it (i.e. strategic depth).


methinks you don't really know what the situation is
the israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a security risk
btw, if you ask israelis about the rockets from hamas the majority will just laugh at them (personal knowledge)
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Jul 7 2014 10:04pm
Quote (brmv @ Jul 8 2014 05:02am)
methinks you don't really know what the situation is
the israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a security risk
btw, if you ask israelis about the rockets from hamas the majority will just laugh at them (personal knowledge)


I read all of boogie160's comments and agree. painfully uninformed
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Jul 7 2014 10:58pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 7 2014 05:43pm)
Instead of arguing like tards... Tell me what do you suggest?


Israel ends apartheid.
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Jul 8 2014 12:22am
Quote (brmv @ Jul 7 2014 11:02pm)
methinks you don't really know what the situation is
the israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a security risk
btw, if you ask israelis about the rockets from hamas the majority will just laugh at them (personal knowledge)


Israeli control over the West Bank is a security asset, as is control over the Golan Heights.

Israel has much more to fear from nearby states than it does from Hamas. Its hard not to be militant when you're surrounded by hostile or recently hostile states.

I'm not condoning Israeli policy, but their security is very relevant to areal solution to the crisis.
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Jul 8 2014 12:43am
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Israeli control over the West Bank is a ...


... key factor to the creation and growth of fundamentalist islamist terrorism

nb: if the west bank were such a big security asset, why build a fence?
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