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Quote (datajunky @ Dec 12 2013 04:50pm)
On the contrary, I'm a Happy, mentally stable free man who has achieved more in my short time than you and your entire family of serfs could ever hope to achieve by following your strict rules of the social contract. The truth is you are just jealous. Admit it... I'm MUCH better than you are and it kills you :)


What is it that you do?

And how do you feel about a contract like the United States Constitution with its Bill of Rights?

I know it has been used in many cases to defend corporations-as-persons as you have mentioned in Canada, but it also does a good job of insuring that individuals can reasonably do what they want with their lives...that you can always make something else out of what you are, which is really the definition of freedom in practical terms, the opportunity for betterment.
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Dec 19 2013 06:43am
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The signing is implicit when you live in a society.  You aren't a captive bro, quit acting like one.


im·plic·it
imˈplisit/Submit
adjective
1.
implied though not plainly expressed.

Basically, if you can't "plainly express" something, then the common man simply won't understand it and this is literally the "wool" that is pulled over the eyes of the masses. Nothing should be implicit when it is a contract and certainly not a social contract. If it blankets the entirety of our good and fair and just society then you would think it would be plainly expressed wouldn't you? This social contract must be implicit because it is so confusing and convoluted with legalese that it is not meant to be understood by any one.

By definition, your social contract is a fraud, and I happen to agree with you. I am a captive bro and so are you, quit denying it.

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What is it that you do?

And how do you feel about a contract like the United States Constitution with its Bill of Rights?

I know it has been used in many cases to defend corporations-as-persons as you have mentioned in Canada, but it also does a good job of insuring that individuals can reasonably do what they want with their lives...that you can always make something else out of what you are, which is really the definition of freedom in practical terms, the opportunity for betterment.


What is it that I do? I'm a successful business owner and a Father and a Husband and a Friend to many. What is it that you do?
I feel that those documents you mentioned have a founding document called the Magna Carta 1215. Under article 61 we have a right to enter into lawful rebellion if we feel we are being governed unjustly. The people are sovereign and no congress or parliament could ever take that away from us.
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Dec 19 2013 07:20am
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 19 2013 07:43am)
im·plic·it
imˈplisit/Submit
adjective
1.
implied though not plainly expressed.

Basically, if you can't "plainly express" something, then the common man simply won't understand it and this is literally the "wool" that is pulled over the eyes of the masses. Nothing should be implicit when it is a contract and certainly not a social contract. If it blankets the entirety of our good and fair and just society then you would think it would be plainly expressed wouldn't you? This social contract must be implicit because it is so confusing and convoluted with legalese that it is not meant to be understood by any one.

By definition, your social contract is a fraud, and I happen to agree with you. I am a captive bro and so are you, quit denying it.



What is it that I do? I'm a successful business owner and a Father and a Husband and a Friend to many. What is it that you do?
I feel that those documents you mentioned have a founding document called the Magna Carta 1215. Under article 61 we have a right to enter into lawful rebellion if we feel we are being governed unjustly. The people are sovereign and no congress or parliament could ever take that away from us.


The Magna Carta was signed by King John with daggers to his throat, which under English Common Law, would be considered duress. Just for the record :p

And it isn't a right to enter lawful rebellion, nobody have to respect it or allow it, which would be the trait of a right. The ability to enter a rebellion would squarely fall into the realm of freedom. Certainly not a right, as those are granted by a state or some other means of explicit enforcement.

And we seem to be able the same as far as social standing and achievement....I resent being called a serf and my family being called serfs, particularly by somebody who is my equal (and we're all equals).
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The Magna Carta was signed by King John with daggers to his throat, which under English Common Law, would be considered duress.  Just for the record :p

And it isn't a right to enter lawful rebellion, nobody have to respect it or allow it, which would be the trait of a right.  The ability to enter a rebellion would squarely fall into the realm of freedom.  Certainly not a right, as those are granted by a state or some other means of explicit enforcement.

And we seem to be able the same as far as social standing and achievement....I resent being called a serf and my family being called serfs, particularly by somebody who is my equal (and we're all equals).


Defined meaning of Rebellion;

Refusal to accept some authority or code or convention.
An act or show of defiance toward an authority or established government.
Defined meaning of Lawful;

Being within the law; allowed by law: lawful methods of dissent. (The lawful refusal to conform to the authority that is unjust)

Saying it is not a right to enter "Lawful Rebellion" is ridiculous to argue. If it is lawful then everyone has the right to do so, regardless of what your dictators have told you. There is a reason article 61 exists. I don't need you to dictate to me what my lawful rights are and are not. Clearly you are more enslaved than you realize. I honestly no longer care whether someone likes or does not like to be called a serf or slave. A free man would dislike it more than a slave, but if you prescribe to the current "system" with the same dogmatic faith as you have shown, then you are indeed a helpless slave working to no other means other than to defend your slavery to the detriment of your own fucking freedom.

Don't even pretend that equality exists between us while you try to oppress my freedoms with your dogmatic ignorance of the actual laws that govern sovereign men. I'm really not interested in your defense of an oppressive system of blind slavery. I'm much more interested in diffusing it and empowering people with a few maxims of law instead of hundreds of thousands of pages of useless statutes paid for by bankers to enslave the ignorant masses using another language to confuse the common man from which they derive their power through consent, not force.

I DO NOT CONSENT AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU.
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Dec 19 2013 11:08am
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 19 2013 11:45am)
Defined meaning of Rebellion;

Refusal to accept some authority or code or convention.
An act or show of defiance toward an authority or established government.
Defined meaning of Lawful;

Being within the law; allowed by law: lawful methods of dissent. (The lawful refusal to conform to the authority that is unjust)

Saying it is not a right to enter "Lawful Rebellion" is ridiculous to argue. If it is lawful then everyone has the right to do so, regardless of what your dictators have told you. There is a reason article 61 exists. I don't need you to dictate to me what my lawful rights are and are not. Clearly you are more enslaved than you realize. I honestly no longer care whether someone likes or does not like to be called a serf or slave. A free man would dislike it more than a slave, but if you prescribe to the current "system" with the same dogmatic faith as you have shown, then you are indeed a helpless slave working to no other means other than to defend your slavery to the detriment of your own fucking freedom.

Don't even pretend that equality exists between us while you try to oppress my freedoms with your dogmatic ignorance of the actual laws that govern sovereign men. I'm really not interested in your defense of an oppressive system of blind slavery. I'm much more interested in diffusing it and empowering people with a few maxims of law instead of hundreds of thousands of pages of useless statutes paid for by bankers to enslave the ignorant masses using another language to confuse the common man from which they derive their power through consent, not force.

I DO NOT CONSENT AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU.


Lol you don't know me in the slightest. I oppress you with my dogmatic faith? Lol.

Like RUSSIABANK and Dietryin' I regret trying to talk to you like a grown up.
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Lol you don't know me in the slightest.  I oppress you with my dogmatic faith?  Lol.

Like RUSSIABANK and Dietryin' I regret trying to talk to you like a grown up.


You're not talking to me like a grown up at all, in fact you're acting like a child. The whole idea of begging for permission to drive a car is childish behavior. That's my entire point and you accuse me of not being grown up enough to talk to you??? LOL

Go ahead and run away you coward. It's what a good slave would do.

At least I've been on point with my discussions. I even take the time to define the words you carelessly use to defend your slavery and you don't even acknowledge when I'm right. Then you pretend like we are equals even though we all know you think you're better than me. It's pretty fucking clear in your postings how you think of me. I don't care about that, I just want you to wake up and smell your own buillshit. I know we are created equal, it's you who are disempowering yourself and others with your defense of your own prison.
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Dec 19 2013 12:36pm
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 19 2013 12:54pm)
You're not talking to me like a grown up at all, in fact you're acting like a child. The whole idea of begging for permission to drive a car is childish behavior. That's my entire point and you accuse me of not being grown up enough to talk to you???  LOL

Go ahead and run away you coward. It's what a good slave would do.

At least I've been on point with my discussions. I even take the time to define the words you carelessly use to defend your slavery and you don't even acknowledge when I'm right. Then you pretend like we are equals even though we all know you think you're better than me. It's pretty fucking clear in your postings how you think of me. I don't care about that, I just want you to wake up and smell your own buillshit. I know we are created equal, it's you who are disempowering yourself and others with your defense of your own prison.


...must be different up there in Canadialand . All I had to do was complete a 20 question multiple choice test and then a quick spin around the neighborhood with a qualified examiner . The only begging was getting my parents to let me have the car on weekend nights and they almost always said yes .
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...must be different up there in Canadialand . All I had to do was complete a 20 question multiple choice test and then a quick spin around the neighborhood with a qualified examiner . The only begging was getting my parents to let me have the car on weekend nights and they almost always said yes .


When you "apply" for a licence you are "begging" for permission to do what is already your lawful right. It's different if you want to conduct commerce but for simple travel the common law requires no licences. Anything that you need a licence for is already lawful, otherwise they wouldn't be able to licence it. A licence is permission and who asks for permission? Children ask for permission. Free Men do not need permission to exercise their lawful rights. The state treats citizens like children. I do not consent to be governed and neither should any of you. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in lawful rebellion as is our right.

It is a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.

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Dec 19 2013 02:19pm
Quote (datajunky @ Dec 19 2013 03:01pm)
When you "apply" for a licence you are "begging" for permission to do what is already your lawful right. It's different if you want to conduct commerce but for simple travel the common law requires no licences. Anything that you need a licence for is already lawful, otherwise they wouldn't be able to licence it. A licence is permission and who asks for permission? Children ask for permission. Free Men do not need permission to exercise their lawful rights. The state treats citizens like children. I do not consent to be governed and neither should any of you. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in lawful rebellion as is our right.

It is a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.


...lawful permission does not require or imply begging . You are not a sovereign citizen and never will be , deal with it and stop exaggerating the meanings of simple words that we all seem to understand except you .
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