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Apr 2 2013 08:44pm
Yes but, one should not dismiss a biblical scholar who specializes in social-sciences and anthropology just because he/she is not fluent in the original language. There are a vast array of resources that lends itself to the grammatical dimension of hermeneutics. That's what I'm saying.
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Apr 2 2013 09:14pm
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Yes but, one should not dismiss a biblical scholar who specializes in social-sciences and anthropology just because he/she is not fluent in the original language.  There are a vast array of resources that lends itself to the grammatical dimension of hermeneutics.  That's what I'm saying.


what did i say

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why do you always have to state trivial things as if others do not know them
yes, you can rely on input from other disciplines and be a scholar in the subject
and you can be a biblical scholar without '"sound hermeneutics"
but for "sound hermeneutics" you need to be able to read the original
and that does apply in general, not only for biblical hermeneutics


but you cannot perform 'sound hermeneutics' when you regurgitate what others have translated
you can perform some basic hermeneutics by comparing different translations and textual criticism provided
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what did i say



but you cannot perform 'sound hermeneutics' when you regurgitate what others have translated
you can perform some basic hermeneutics by comparing different translations and textual criticism provided


You still don't seem to understand.

A person with absolute fluency in original biblical knowledge still wouldn't be able to unearth true intended meaning. The academic community (yes even biblical scholars) borrow each other's work and use it for interpretation.

You can perform "basic hermeneutics" by knowing original languages too.

Sigh. not sure if you are trolling.
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You still don't seem to understand.
A person with absolute fluency in original biblical knowledge still wouldn't be able to unearth true intended meaning.  The academic community (yes even biblical scholars) borrow each other's work and use it for interpretation.
You can perform "basic hermeneutics" by knowing original languages too. 
Sigh. not sure if you are trolling.


you capacity of comprehension really has to be put into doubt
if you have missed the key point let me make clear that is was 'sound hermeneutics'
and not anything else like eg 'the ability to unearth the true intended meaning'
in case you did not know hermeneutics is used outside the concept of biblical hermeneutics
and i did my fill with medieval literary pieces, eg niebelungenlied
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When is #9?


I haven't forgotten #9. I missed the Sermon because it occurred on Good Friday and I was asked to assist with the Kid's program so I missed the Sermon.

However the Sermon's are all recorded and come out on vodcast after a few days. When it eventually comes out then I'll do #9. They also did #10 as well but the same thing happened.
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I haven't forgotten #9. I missed the Sermon because it occurred on Good Friday and I was asked to assist with the Kid's program so I missed the Sermon.
However the Sermon's are all recorded and come out on vodcast after a few days. When it eventually comes out then I'll do #9. They also did #10 as well but the same thing happened.


just hoping that after #9 & $#10 you are done for some time :bouncy:
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Quote (brmv @ Apr 3 2013 05:05pm)
just hoping that after #9 & $#10 you are done for some time  :bouncy:


The next series is: Questions that Jesus asks us. I don't plan to relay what I hear from Church to here again next term.
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The next series is: Questions that Jesus asks us. I don't plan to relay what I hear from Church to here again next term.


Why not?
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you capacity of comprehension really has to be put into doubt
if you have missed the key point let me make clear that is was 'sound hermeneutics'
and not anything else like eg 'the ability to unearth the true intended meaning'
in case you did not know hermeneutics is used outside the concept of biblical hermeneutics
and i did my fill with medieval literary pieces, eg niebelungenlied


That is exactly what hermeneutics is. True intended meaning. Anything else is misinterpretation.

If you disagree then I would really really love to hear what you think the goal of hermeneutics is.

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Quote (dajusta @ 3 Apr 2013 16:03)
That is exactly what hermeneutics is.  True intended meaning.  Anything else is misinterpretation.
If you disagree then I would really really love to hear what you think the goal of hermeneutics is.


sorry, i should have known that you wouldn't understand my response without further explanation
hermeneutics indeed does look for the true meaning of the text BUT in the sense to understand what the text meant for those writing it
and not to draw spiritual conclusions out of it - or do you change your belief system whenever you read the sacred text of another religion?
to understand what the text was meant to say (potentially in a propagandistic way) is different to taken this on as your belief
scraping the text sequences for justification of your faith is not hermeneutics (but for you it is definitely part of 'the true intended meaning')
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