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i really question that you are christian


Why? Jesus's parables were made for subjective interpretation of our free will. Jesus is God.
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Objective morality is a very broken concept. Morality is supposed to be subjective. Even if you are a Christian you have to admit there is killing that is justified and killing that is not justified. If a man whose family is starving steals to feed his children that is lesser than a man who steals for his own greed. I think even the 10 commandments is often misunderstood in religious context because there are too many examples within the bible where God himself permits breaking them.


The 10 commandments outlaw murder, not killing. It's a different word in Hebrew that gets lost in translation. Where murder is defined as unjust killing

God of course has no problem with just killings, just ask the Amalekites

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Why? Jesus's parables were made for subjective interpretation of our free will. Jesus is God.


Christianity teaches that moral truth is grounded in the objective nature of God, and moral laws are revealed through divine revelation, scripture, and the teachings of Jesus.

the idea of free will in Christianity is about the freedom to choose to follow God’s will, not to define moral truth subjectively.
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The 10 commandments outlaw murder, not killing. It's a different word in Hebrew that gets lost in translation

God of course has no problem with just killings, just ask the Amalekites


Yes but the line we draw between murder and killing is often through man and not God. That's when the problem arises. Unless you are a prophet. It's kind of hard to know whether or not someone is doing something by God's will or not.
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Christianity teaches that moral truth is grounded in the objective nature of God, and moral laws are revealed through divine revelation, scripture, and the teachings of Jesus.

the idea of free will in Christianity is about the freedom to choose to follow God’s will, not to define moral truth subjectively.


I disagree. The very fact that we are arguing about the interpretation of the same scripture is my proof. All I can do is disagree with you though.
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Yes but the line we draw between murder and killing is often through man and not God. That's when the problem arises. Unless you are a prophet. It's kind of hard to know whether or not someone is doing something by God's will or not.


I agree with that, man can never be truly certain that a killing is just, we can only get as close as possible, which is the function of a court of law.

That doesn't however mean that you throw the baby out with the bathwater and never engage in killing altogether - this is the heresy of a pacifist society. Pacifist societies never survive because they're trivially conquered. To err is to be human
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I disagree. The very fact that we are arguing about the interpretation of the same scripture is my proof. All I can do is disagree with you though.


that's not proof, you are simply wrong and not a christian if you fundamentally believe morality is subjective

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that's not proof, you are simply wrong and not a christian if you fundamentally believe morality is subjective


Morality of man is subjective. Morality of God is not. We do not have the capacity to be objective. All we can do is try.
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Morality of man is subjective. Morality of God is not. We do not have the capacity to be objective. All we can do is try.


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"Morality is supposed to be subjective".
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