A fundamental precept of neoliberalism is that voters aren't entitled to their votes. Democracy only exists insofar as it elects neoliberal representatives. Look at Romania right now lmao. Votes belong to party elites and average voters are assumed to only be pawns of opposing interests and foreign adversaries and cannot be trusted with self determination

Well this read like a long fart into a paper bag that you then huffed to me but I offered you to agree to disagree and you were not into it.

I am talking about when it comes to policy.
75% of Americans want a better healthcare system, a dozen insurance CEOs oppose it, guess who won?
You are an oligarchy and even Harvard did studies that proved it.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 9 2024 06:05pm

You might win here if the jury acquits.

Depends on how tenable the jurors are.

I'm sad that you're unwilling to agree to disagree with my modest proposal to have all children under 2 years old in Syria-Palaestina be massacred. I'm being perfectly reasonable as I extend the courtesy to you to passively accept my murderous intent

It's going to be hard to find 12 people who have zero existing bias on this subject but I am fine with him doing the time for his decision, he knew the risks and I am big on personal responsibility.
I disagree with many laws and follow them selectively based on my own morals but I am also aware of any consequences and willing to deal with them.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 9 2024 06:15pm

Might want to read up on my stance on that particular issue.
Our only point of contention is on scope.

Herod had the right idea but didn't go far enough?

I think one side needs to be removed, preferably Israel, even if you have to put them in the Australian outback, any other solution will circle back to endless war.

We are in an oligarchy, but no, a handful of CEOs don't really decide much. It's the capitalistic system itself. It's me and you and millions like us with our savings that own the fortune 500 companies that demand continually higher returns, that want businesses better run, that want businesses to be profit maximizing, that are used to double digit annual returns, and so on. CEOs and the rest of the executive management teams are basically agents that work for the shareholders, and the shareholders, many of them are average Joe Shmoes with savings, not some dark figure behind pulling all the strings for nefarious reasons.

There is no great evil narrative to deny or make it unaffordable for people in Florida to have flood or hurricane insurance, it's the natural consequence of living in a high risk place. High risk demands commensurate returns, if the returns don't match the risk profile that business/product/service goes belly up. There is no great conspiracy theory for healthcare insurers to kill people by not covering all services, they have to make a spread on the risk they take, otherwise there's no incentive to take the risk. Maybe the answer is some nationalized system, idk I'm no expert, but killing people running these companies does nothing, only stupid people think this changes anything.