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Mar 28 2023 07:34am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2023 05:58am)
Your post has maybe 20 countries?
I don't consider Lotts work impartial, personally I'm not about to deep dive any of his studies.

When you compare the US to europe. There are far more mass shooting in the US.
But you don't think more gun ownership = more mass shootings?


The link had all of them.

Meanwhile, the study by Adam Lankford, the one which purports that the US experiences 1/3 of all mass shootings? To this day, he refuses to reveal the source data for examination.
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Mar 28 2023 07:43am
Quote (Santara @ Mar 28 2023 02:34pm)
The link had all of them.

Meanwhile, the study by Adam Lankford, the one which purports that the US experiences 1/3 of all mass shootings? To this day, he refuses to reveal the source data for examination.


To be clear I'm not totally against gun ownership.
In 3 decades I have lived in Scotland there has been 1 mass shooting, that I'm aware of.
There is just not the access to guns like in the US.

It seems obvious to me that the US has a problem with mass shootings. Would you not agree?

I do think there are obvious problems with an arms manufacture industrial complex/ lobbying for pro gun ownership legislation for example. And with gun control generally, and weapons getting into the hands of dangerous people.

Do you agree that compared to nations with similar living standards and cultural norms. Eg "Western" nations. The US has a higher rate of mass shooting?

My answer and I think the honest answer to that question is yes.
Can you see why people believe that higher rate of mass shooting correlates with higher rates of gun ownership?

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Mar 28 2023 07:56am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 28 2023 09:19am)
Really shocking that Scottish people have been stereotyped as stupid and angry.


:rofl:

Just had an epiphany on Groundskeeper Willie. It makes so much sense now wow

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Mar 28 2023 07:57am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Mar 28 2023 02:19pm)
Really shocking that Scottish people have been stereotyped as stupid and angry.


Quote (Djunior @ Mar 28 2023 02:27pm)
Their bid for independence failed, their economy is tanking and they're ruled by a London based oligarch...


Oh it's the mobiks that hate the west but live in the west and enjoy its customs.
Hey guys, didn't you get drafted to bhakmut yet?
Or is that only Russian rapists and murders that went with wagner :rofl:

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Mar 28 2023 08:00am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Mar 28 2023 09:02am)
SCOTUS has published lengthy opinion on this detailing why it's beneficial to have armed populace which couldn't be further from a tinfoil hat conspiracy. Good read if you haven't, I think it was the DC Heller one. Framing the pro gun club as tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists is naive at best.

Anyways, further proof of my point of lobbyist capitalizing on mental health crisis. Efforts should be focused on root causes, not tangent agenda.


Well, you can talk about a SCOTUS opinion you read once, but unless you're actually posting information and arguments, I'm not going to respond. If you are so lazy that you can't even quote the arguments that you think are good from a SCOTUS opinion, don't expect anyone to respond to you.

I don't think I framed the pro-firearms group as tin foil hat, I just said that the argument employed by many of them as it relates to gun control law as it relates to resisting government tyranny doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 28 2023 10:56am)
:rofl:

Just had an epiphany on Groundskeeper Willie. It makes so much sense now wow


:rofl:


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2023 10:57am)
Oh it's the mobiks that hate the west but live in the west and enjoy its customs.
Hey guys, didn't you get drafted to bhakmut yet?
Or is that only Russian rapists and murders that went with wagner :rofl:


How would I get drafted to Bakhmut if I "live in the west and enjoy its customs."?
Seems unlikely but I will hear you out
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Mar 28 2023 08:19am
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A fair point imo.

We could also mention the most tyrannical leader in recent American history is Trump, who was endorsed by the NRA and not interested in gun control.

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Mar 28 2023 08:21am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Mar 28 2023 03:57pm)
Oh it's the mobiks that hate the west but live in the west and enjoy its customs.
Hey guys, didn't you get drafted to bhakmut yet?
Or is that only Russian rapists and murders that went with wagner :rofl:


Keep the shit posts up Scotty

@bolded: Probably true, Russia lost a bunch of prison inmates while Ukraine sent their best units to plug the lines. How you can consider that a win for Ukraine is beyond me
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Mar 28 2023 08:28am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 28 2023 03:21pm)
Keep the shit posts up Scotty

@bolded: Probably true, Russia lost a bunch of prison inmates while Ukraine sent their best units to plug the lines. How you can consider that a win for Ukraine is beyond me


I head 15,000 convicts made it out and got their freedom back in Russia? Out of the 50-75k that went in?
Nothing like rapists and murderers who were on life sentences coming straight back from a warzone and into "society"


This is not normal. Then again, either is looting washing machines ^^
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