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May 20 2018 07:16pm


Seems like a smart move by Rod. I'm going to predict that whatever the results, the Trump cult claims victory.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 20 2018 02:28pm)
" A Cambridge professor having a few conversations with campaign officials isn't some serious effort to spy on the Trump campaign."

A Cambridge professor who has been working for the intelligence agencies for over 3 decades and has been involved in scandalous spying operations during the 1980 presidential election. A source that the agencies themselves have, just this week, called "so important that lives coud be in danger if his identity gets public".


I'm missing your point.


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May 20 2018 07:24pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 20 2018 09:16pm)
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Seems like a smart move by Rod. I'm going to predict that whatever the results, the Trump cult claims victory.



I'm missing your point.


Seeing as how Rod isn't interested in making himself look bad. I dont see anything happening as a result
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#18983
May 20 2018 07:25pm
Quote (IceMage @ 21 May 2018 03:16)
I'm missing your point.


your point was that Halper talking to some of the trump campaign officials was innocuous.

my point is that this argument isnt convincing when said person is a decade-long associate of the intelligence community who is proven to have previously been involved in very shady spying actions against presidential campaigns, with obvious and partisan political intentions.

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#18984
May 21 2018 10:27am
modern mainstream media circa 2018 in a nutshell:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/giuliani-made-up-robert-mueller-deadline-for-trump-probe-report.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/trump-to-ask-justice-department-to-look-into-campaign-surveillance-claims-idUSKCN1IL0PQ

Rudy Giuliani makes a claim that he plausibly could know, but there is reason to doubt whether his claim is accurate
Reuters then cites an anonymous source- an unnamed 'official' of a completely unknown nature, without any details as to whether he'd be in a position to actually know anything of Mueller's probe or not- who speculatively calls Giuliani's claim 'entirely made up' as an 'apparent effort to pressure the special counsel'. The other MSM sites then quote this unnamed official to authoritatively state that Giuliani's claim was false.
Was Rudy right or wrong? We have no way to know. But the MSM first reports his words skeptically, then reports a completely unaccountable anonymous source with no credibility whatsoever in order to contradict him.
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May 21 2018 11:03am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 21 2018 12:27pm)
modern mainstream media circa 2018 in a nutshell:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/giuliani-made-up-robert-mueller-deadline-for-trump-probe-report.html
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/trump-to-ask-justice-department-to-look-into-campaign-surveillance-claims-idUSKCN1IL0PQ

Rudy Giuliani makes a claim that he plausibly could know, but there is reason to doubt whether his claim is accurate
Reuters then cites an anonymous source- an unnamed 'official' of a completely unknown nature, without any details as to whether he'd be in a position to actually know anything of Mueller's probe or not- who speculatively calls Giuliani's claim 'entirely made up' as an 'apparent effort to pressure the special counsel'. The other MSM sites then quote this unnamed official to authoritatively state that Giuliani's claim was false.
Was Rudy right or wrong? We have no way to know. But the MSM first reports his words skeptically, then reports a completely unaccountable anonymous source with no credibility whatsoever in order to contradict him.



For once they should make a mistake that makes Democrats look bad. Makes you wonder why they never do
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May 21 2018 11:20am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 20 2018 02:28pm)
" A Cambridge professor having a few conversations with campaign officials isn't some serious effort to spy on the Trump campaign."

A Cambridge professor who has been working for the intelligence agencies for over 3 decades and has been involved in scandalous spying operations during the 1980 presidential election. A source that the agencies themselves have, just this week, called "so important that lives coud be in danger if his identity gets public".

Those pesky facts
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May 21 2018 11:22am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 21 2018 11:03am)
For once they should make a mistake that makes Democrats look bad. Makes you wonder why they never do


they accidentally gave Leeann Tweeden a platform to tear down Al Franken
they won't make that mistake again
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#18988
May 21 2018 11:26am
So revealing the source didn't claim lives? Shocking.

Trump's real flaws aside, state employees are resisting congressional oversight and undermining the president. What a toxic situation for any democracy.
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#18989
May 21 2018 11:51am
Quote (Goomshill @ 21 May 2018 13:22)
they accidentally gave Leeann Tweeden a platform to tear down Al Franken
they won't make that mistake again

that’s for sure
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May 21 2018 11:57am
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