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May 18 2018 11:28pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 18 May 2018 23:26)
aaand Halper was paid $400,000 by the FBI;

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ddhp1dOV0AATvtD.jpg

fbi been payin everyone out here
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May 18 2018 11:37pm
Quote (excellence @ May 18 2018 10:28pm)
fbi been payin everyone out here


The left is loving seeing the federal authoritarian agencies implode.
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May 18 2018 11:56pm
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The left is loving seeing the federal authoritarian agencies implode.




Looks to me like the left is attempting to cause it. I don't think they'll succeed.
McCarthyism will return and a lot of people will disappear.
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May 19 2018 12:02am
Quote (Ghot @ May 18 2018 10:56pm)
Looks to me like the left is attempting to cause it. I don't think they'll succeed.
McCarthyism will return and a lot of people will disappear.


You don't really know what you're talking about so I'll forgive this statement.

The center-right is in war with the far right right now. Mueller, Comey, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Rosenstein, etc are all center right.

The left is happy to see the executive agencies fighting each other because it erodes the power of the state, which we want to abolish entirely.
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May 19 2018 12:06am
Quote (excellence @ May 18 2018 11:28pm)
fbi been payin everyone out here


yeah I should note that to their defense, this guy was on the DoD payroll for years before Trump & Co, he's been an ongoing informant.
Still, they paid him $400,000 to spy on Trump's campaign.
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May 19 2018 12:11am
Quote (inkanddagger @ May 19 2018 02:02am)
You don't really know what you're talking about so I'll forgive this statement.

The center-right is in war with the far right right now. Mueller, Comey, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Rosenstein, etc are all center right.

The left is happy to see the executive agencies fighting each other because it erodes the power of the state, which we want to abolish entirely.



Well, just for starters, Obama and Clinton are democrats. So there goes that theory.
Then there's this...

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Robert Swan Mueller III (/ˈmʌlər/; born August 7, 1944) is an American attorney who served as the sixth Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation from 2001 to 2013


...and this.

James Brien Comey Jr. (born December 14, 1960) is an American lawyer who served as the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) from 2013 until his dismissal in May 2017.[3] Comey has been a registered Republican for most of his adult life but has recently described himself as unaffiliated.[4]

All I can do is explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.


/e So I'll quote myself again..

Quote (Ghot @ May 18 2018 06:43pm)
Hardly. They are only asking for documents that pertain to an informant IN the trump campaign.


As for the rest... the FBI, the DOJ, Mueller, Rosenstein have all been in cahoots since 2005 according to the stuff uncovered by TheHill.
The DOJ and the FBI have been politicized and they went democrat.

If the truth manages to come out, I think this will nearly destroy a large portion of the democratic party.



/ee @ Gooms... nice finds dude. ^^

This post was edited by Ghot on May 19 2018 12:19am
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May 19 2018 12:21am
Guys pay attention to the Stefan Halper timeline. That's another important revelation here, I'll let the propagandists at Breitbart do the work since nobody else is
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/18/informant-spied-on-trump-campaign-before-the-fbi-officially-began-its-probe/

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FBI officials have said they began investigating the Trump administration on July 31, 2016, after stolen Democratic National Committee emails were released on July 22, 2016, prompting Australian officials to come forward with information they received from Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos months earlier


Thats the origin of the "australian ambassador" explanation that has been cited as the original cause for the investigation. But as they lay out:

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However — the problem with that account is that the FBI informant had approached Trump campaign adviser Carter Page before that email release on July 22, 2016, and before the Australians came forward with the information, supposedly after that.
The informant first approached Carter Page at a Cambridge symposium on the U.S. presidential election in London on July 11-12, 2016. Page was invited to the symposium in June 2016 by an unnamed doctoral student at Cambridge who knew Halper, according to a source.


The informant was spying on the Trump campaign before the July 22 wikileaks emails, and before the australian ambassador could relay his concerns.
That demonstrates that once again the FBI's cited date and cause has been pushed back. First people said it was caused by the steele dossier, then it was caused by the diplomat's tipoff, and now we find out the spying was ongoing before that.
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May 19 2018 12:24am


The devil is in the details.

You should work for some govt. oversight committee. :D
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May 19 2018 01:38am
https://www.wsj.com/articles/identity-politics-threatens-the-american-experiment-1526680162

Op ed from Orrin Hatch, I'll spam the whole text;

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Identity Politics Threatens the American Experiment
Increasingly we sort each other into groups, making sweeping assumptions based on binary labels.

Kanye West, ever the iconoclast, set social media ablaze last month when he donned a red “Make America Great Again” hat in support of President Trump. Whether a genuine expression of political belief or a publicity stunt, Mr. West’s selfie sparked a much-needed discussion on the role of identity in politics.

At the heart of Mr. West’s message is the idea that all of us—no matter our race, religion or background—have the right to be more than one thing. It’s a message that resonates with millions of Americans who refuse to conform to stereotypes—me included.

I grew up in poverty during the Great Depression, the son of blue-collar parents who passionately defended Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. As a young man, I followed my father into the steelworking trade, where I became a card-carrying member of a labor union. When I was elected to the Senate decades later, I became best friends with Teddy Kennedy, the chamber’s liberal lion. Today, I am, among other things, an advocate for the legalization of medical marijuana research and a strong proponent of transgender rights in the military.

I am also a Republican.

In fact, I am a lifelong Republican with impeccable conservative credentials, including multiple honors from the Heritage Foundation and an A-plus rating from the National Rifle Association. My record on fiscal policy is so strong that President Reagan dubbed me “Mr. Balanced Budget.” I was the architect of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a key player in the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, and the principal author of the tax-reform bill that passed Congress in December.

All of which is to say that I can be more than one thing. I can be the son of working-class parents and also a pro-business Republican. I can be a bipartisan deal maker and also a consistent conservative. I can be an ally to the transgender community and also a committed Christian. As much as my critics would like to pigeonhole me—dismissing more than eight decades of accrued wisdom and life experience based solely on the “R” that follows my name—I can’t be reduced to a party platform.

I am more than the sum of my parts, and so is every American. Yet increasingly we sort each other into groups, making sweeping assumptions based on binary labels: Democrat or Republican, black or white, male or female. These labels are mere pixels in the picture of an individual’s identity; they are not the picture itself. No word—no matter how descriptive—could ever distill all the nuance and complexity that is a single human being.

Our tendency to use labels to box each other in is indicative of a much larger societal problem: the unleashing of identity politics. Identity politics is tribalism by another name. It is the deliberate and often unnatural segregation of people into categories for political gain. Under this cynical program, the identity of the group subsumes the identity of the individual, allowing little room for independence, self-realization or free thought.

Some play down the dangers of this practice, but identity politics is a blight on our democracy. It feeds fear, division, acrimony and anger. Worse, identity politics is inimical to the very idea of what it means to be American.

For more than two centuries, we have been able to weave together the disparate threads of a diverse society more successfully than any nation on earth. How? Through the unifying power of the American idea that all of us—regardless of color, class or creed—are equal, and that we can work together to build a more perfect union. It’s the idea that our dignity comes not from the groups to which we belong but from our inherent worth as individuals—as children of the same God and partakers of the same human condition.

Identity politics turns the American idea on its head. Rather than looking beyond arbitrary differences in color, class and creed, identity politics separates us along these lines. It puts the demands of the collective before the sovereignty of the individual. In doing so, identity politics conditions us to define ourselves and each other by the groups to which we belong. Soon, we lose sight of the myriad values that unite us. We come to see each other only through the distorted prism of our differences. Where identity politics reigns, so, too, do its regents: polarization, gridlock and groupthink.

Identity politics is cancer on our political culture. If we allow it to metastasize, civility will cease, our national community will crumble, and the U.S. will become a divided country of ideological ghettos.

To save the American experiment, we must reject the tribalism of our time. Both on the left and right, we must renounce identity politics in every form. We must resist the temptation to use labels, and we must allow each other room to be more than one thing.

Ideas—not identity—should be the driving force of our politics. By restoring the primacy of ideas to public discourse, we can foster an environment that will allow democracy to thrive, an environment of free thought and open deliberation unconstrained by the excesses of political correctness.

If we let any identity define us going forward, it should be our common identity as Americans, as men and women steadfastly committed to upholding the virtues of liberty and independence upon which our nation was founded. It’s the only way to preserve the American experiment for future generations.
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May 19 2018 01:44am
searched on this halper and seems there not a single valuable source talking about it
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