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Oct 15 2023 01:33pm
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 15 2023 12:26pm)
Are you John Snow?
Cause you know nothing.

For example, jews are not white.


Most Jews today have more white blood in them than they do Jewish blood. Ashkenazi, the largest group, tend to have more Germanic/Nordic blood than Semitic blood.

They are most commonly indistinguishable in skin tone from white people - the only ones who stand out are ethnically pure Orthodox Jews who are not the majority. They have largely all the same modern cultural practices to the white people/culture. We are united in the Judeo-Christian ethic.

If you think otherwise, you're a completely uneducated, illiterate, sticking your head in the sand buffoon. You've obviously never interacted with Jewish people.
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Oct 15 2023 01:36pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 15 2023 02:33pm)
Most Jews today have more white blood in them than they do Jewish blood. Ashkenazi, the largest group, tend to have more Germanic/Nordic blood than Semitic blood.

They are most commonly indistinguishable in skin tone from white people - the only ones who stand out are ethnically pure Orthodox Jews who are not the majority. They have largely all the same modern cultural practices to the white people/culture. We are united in the Judeo-Christian ethic.

If you think otherwise, you're a completely uneducated, illiterate, sticking your head in the sand buffoon. You've obviously never interacted with Jewish people.


Ask them yourself. ;)

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Oct 15 2023 01:52pm
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 15 Oct 2023 21:28)
Palestinians don’t want to be free. They want to be free on the expanse of the Jewish state.
What you call occupation I call losing a war and failing establishing something other than a nest of terror.


you can call a pig a cow, but that doesn't make it kosher. you can call the illegal occupation what you want, but that doesn't change reality:
you control their borders. you settle their lands. you say what they can do and what they can't do, what they can have and what they can't have, what they can build and what they can't build... they are not free by any reasonable definition of the word. you occupy them. you violate their human rights.

that you can't even acknowledge such obvious truths just shows how dishonest and biased you are. claiming "palestinians don't want to be free" is like saying "israelis want to be murdered by terrorists". it's absurd.

again, AS LONG AS THERE IS AN OCCUPATION, THERE WILL BE RESISTANCE. even the hamas terrorists that murdered innocent people a week ago, have lived under israel's brutal and inhumane occupation BEFORE they committed their barbaric acts. does it excuse them? of course not. but does it debunk the moronic narrative of "completely unprovoked and out of nothing" attacks, trying to airbrush out israel's decades long violations of human rights and international law? yes. as long as you imprison and starve millions of innocent people, half of which are children, the cycle of violence and terror will continue. even YOU should be able to understand that - and you probably do, you just don't care about muslim children, and don't want to acknowledge the massive injustice and power imbalance... typical occupier mindset really.
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Oct 15 2023 02:05pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 15 2023 09:34am)
Yes. If you know your enemy has setup a trap, it would be foolish to knowingly walk into it out of rage and bloodlust.


so your not really saying "dont repay evil with evil" your just saying you think its just the best strategy at this juncture? assuming you have the correct read on the situation?

Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 15 2023 09:39am)
Israel should take accountability for the military and intelligence failure that allowed this attack to catch them off guard, and should readily see that Hamas initiated this attack with Iranian support out of a desire to disrupt the normalization of relationship between Saudi Arabia and Israel. They're trying to provoke your government into an extreme response as as to:

1. Get Saudi Arabia to pull out of talk of normalization.
2. Get more Palestinian people to hate Israel and be sympathetic and/or join Hamas.
3. Rally the Arab world and stroke animosity towards Israel at-large.

If Israel had acknowledged the failure that allowed an attack of this scale to happen, focused solely on hostage retrieval, and then worked with the international community for a more organized, level-headed response to Hamas, then it would mean a greater chance of long-term peace and stability in the region. Unfortunately, Netanyahu is falling right into Hamas' trap.


part of what you may be missing is your assuming you know the mind of a muslim or? more precisely a fundamental muslim? what i think your missing is you advocate for a more peaceful resolution when you missing the possibility is islam would/could see that as weakness and be emboldened by it
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Oct 15 2023 02:12pm
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Oct 15 2023 09:52am)
Resume the supply only on south to encourage Palestinians to go south..


how it looks to me is gaza is being purged not genocided.
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Oct 15 2023 02:12pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 15 2023 02:33pm)
One side would torture you, burn you alive, chop you into pieces etc. just for existing, while the other side makes every accommodation possible to support your lifestyle, where you can freely be who you are.

This really isn't hard to figure out and certainly shouldn't be for you


it should go without saying that i dont support war, and while i will always be anti bigotry, i am also anti senseless killing

the conflict sounds really fucking stupid to me, religious stupid shit
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Oct 15 2023 02:15pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 15 2023 10:52pm)
you can call a pig a cow, but that doesn't make it kosher. you can call the illegal occupation what you want, but that doesn't change reality:
you control their borders. you settle their lands. you say what they can do and what they can't do, what they can have and what they can't have, what they can build and what they can't build... they are not free by any reasonable definition of the word. you occupy them. you violate their human rights.

that you can't even acknowledge such obvious truths just shows how dishonest and biased you are. claiming "palestinians don't want to be free" is like saying "israelis want to be murdered by terrorists". it's absurd.

again, AS LONG AS THERE IS AN OCCUPATION, THERE WILL BE RESISTANCE. even the hamas terrorists that murdered innocent people a week ago, have lived under israel's brutal and inhumane occupation BEFORE they committed their barbaric acts. does it excuse them? of course not. but does it debunk the moronic narrative of "completely unprovoked and out of nothing" attacks, trying to airbrush out israel's decades long violations of human rights and international law? yes. as long as you imprison and starve millions of innocent people, half of which are children, the cycle of violence and terror will continue. even YOU should be able to understand that - and you probably do, you just don't care about muslim children, and don't want to acknowledge the massive injustice and power imbalance... typical occupier mindset really.


In our small piece of land there was everything BUT a Palestinian state.
Your manifest is irrelevant, you are irrelevant.
Because of people like you who support the Palestinian narrative they don’t have a country because they believe they can go back to some land which was never theirs to begins with.
Every round in Gaza is the same, your opinions are the same and we debated a lot in the past. I don’t find it necessary to keep going since you keep chanting slogans without actually realise that my generation is born into this shit without possibility on doing something different coz on the other side they teach their children that I’m the devil.
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Oct 15 2023 02:18pm
Quote (fender @ Oct 15 2023 01:52pm)
you can call a pig a cow, but that doesn't make it kosher. you can call the illegal occupation what you want, but that doesn't change reality:
you control their borders. you settle their lands. you say what they can do and what they can't do, what they can have and what they can't have, what they can build and what they can't build... they are not free by any reasonable definition of the word. you occupy them. you violate their human rights.

that you can't even acknowledge such obvious truths just shows how dishonest and biased you are. claiming "palestinians don't want to be free" is like saying "israelis want to be murdered by terrorists". it's absurd.

again, AS LONG AS THERE IS AN OCCUPATION, THERE WILL BE RESISTANCE. even the hamas terrorists that murdered innocent people a week ago, have lived under israel's brutal and inhumane occupation BEFORE they committed their barbaric acts. does it excuse them? of course not. but does it debunk the moronic narrative of "completely unprovoked and out of nothing" attacks, trying to airbrush out israel's decades long violations of human rights and international law? yes. as long as you imprison and starve millions of innocent people, half of which are children, the cycle of violence and terror will continue. even YOU should be able to understand that - and you probably do, you just don't care about muslim children, and don't want to acknowledge the massive injustice and power imbalance... typical occupier mindset really.


What occupation? You illiterate buffoon. The land was never theirs. It was the Ottoman Empire for the last 600 years and it was defeated. Then after the world war the land was broke up and Israel was returned to the Jews. Then the Arabs vs Israel war happened and the Arabs LOST. There is no way in the world it’s Palestines land.

This post was edited by Landmine on Oct 15 2023 02:21pm
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Oct 15 2023 02:21pm
Quote (blahaj @ Oct 15 2023 01:12pm)
it should go without saying that i dont support war, and while i will always be anti bigotry, i am also anti senseless killing

the conflict sounds really fucking stupid to me, religious stupid shit


It's okay if you don't really understand this conflict - it's largely not religious at all and is a territorial dispute. It's good that you're not taking sides blindly without really understanding what's going on

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 15 2023 02:24pm
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Oct 15 2023 02:22pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 15 2023 01:05pm)
so your not really saying "dont repay evil with evil" your just saying you think its just the best strategy at this juncture? assuming you have the correct read on the situation?

part of what you may be missing is your assuming you know the mind of a muslim or? more precisely a fundamental muslim? what i think your missing is you advocate for a more peaceful resolution when you missing the possibility is islam would/could see that as weakness and be emboldened by it


I make no equivocation that Hamas needs to be dealt with. There is a world of options available between doing what Israel is currently doing and "doing nothing".
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