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May 17 2018 01:52pm
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Obama didn't really have the level of scandal we see coming out of the current White House. The GOP had full control and could have pushed a similar investigation into Obama but didn't.

Also, not the uppity black guy but the bitch, Benghazi.


Yep, their mistake, considering what came after.

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May 17 2018 01:53pm
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Yep, their mistake, considering what came after.


Seems less like a mistake, considering their mass obstruction, than them knowing there was nothing there to lynch that boy with.
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May 17 2018 01:55pm
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Seems less like a mistake, considering their mass obstruction, than them knowing there was nothing there to lynch that boy with.



Except the Uranium One deal, and the fact that he set up Obamacare without first securing the funding for it (just lied to the American people).
I could go on, but those were two of the worst things he did.
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May 17 2018 01:59pm
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Except the Uranium One deal, and the fact that he set up Obamacare without first securing the funding for it (just lied to the American people).
I could go on, but those were two of the worst things he did.


thank god boldly lying to the American people isn't an investigation worthy act, I don't think we could fund anything else with 1200 open investigations into Trump happening simultaneously.
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May 17 2018 02:04pm
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thank god boldly lying to the American people isn't an investigation worthy act, I don't think we could fund anything else with 1200 open investigations into Trump happening simultaneously.




You're right, sort of. Trump lies, but it's for stupid shyt. Stuff that doesn't really affect the American people.
Obama promised the US a decent healthcare plan which he KNEW couldn't work, the minute Congress denied Obamacare the funding.

The mere fact that he endorsed Hillary th' crook should tell you something as well. Obama had to have known about her curious ways (the emails etc.) yet he still endorsed her.
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May 17 2018 02:07pm
It appears that Obama completely politicized the DOJ and FBI.

I wouldn't be surprised to see people in jail over this, Obama's legacy will be tarnished.
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May 17 2018 02:08pm
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You're right, sort of. Trump lies, but it's for stupid shyt. Stuff that doesn't really affect the American people.
Obama promised the US a decent healthcare plan which he KNEW couldn't work, the minute Congress denied Obamacare the funding.

The mere fact that he endorsed Hillary th' crook should tell you something as well. Obama had to have known about her curious ways (the emails etc.) yet he still endorsed her.


Trump's entire list of things he'd do in the first 100 days was a complete lie, he knew it wouldn't happen even with a congress that played ball instead of the congress he ended up with. he's simply rescinded enough obama era EO's to keep people quiet. funny enough he targets anything with an Obama stamp on it, whether or not he said he would in campaign, that he can do without for cheap PR wins.

Obamacare hasn't been fixed, the wall is still up in the air, etc. even the things he delivered on are compromises or way behind schedule.

I think both Obama and Trump knew they were getting elected on pipe dream, and i consider that a lie that's much worse than either have committed in office. The meta of unrealistic expectations being electable traits is politics, and both pushed the envelope. all change candidates do, and most look like unaccomplished idiots after 4-8 years, but at least they won.

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It appears that Obama completely politicized the DOJ and FBI.

I wouldn't be surprised to see people in jail over this, Obama's legacy will be tarnished.



Obama did it finger pointing is always cute. maybe you and goomy can have a nice circle jerk over how the FBI was a great group of centrist people pre-Obama while ignoring it's actually just us finding out the reality because internet exists now.

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May 17 2018 02:15pm
I refuse to find the three TheHill articles, again, about all the crooked shyt that went on when Obama was in the hot seat.


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It appears that Obama completely politicized the DOJ and FBI.


I don't think anyone disagrees with that. :)

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I refuse to find the three TheHill articles, again, about all the crooked shyt that went on when Obama was in the hot seat.


and you don't need to. i recognize that Obama in office was crooked. as is trump. as was GWB. as was slick willy. the only factor i think at play is exposure to the truth through internet. until you get to Carter, who was likely significantly less crooked. i think straight presidents were outliers all the way back to Washington.
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May 17 2018 02:19pm
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and you don't need to. i recognize that Obama in office was crooked. as is trump. as was GWB. as was slick willy. the only factor i think at play is exposure to the truth through internet. until you get to Carter, who was likely significantly less crooked. i think straight presidents were outliers all the way back to Washington.




I still don't get the "Trump is crooked in office" spiel.
He hasn't done ANYthing even remotely crooked since he took office.

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