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May 17 2018 07:06am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 17 2018 06:57am)
No judge and done secretly. Is this normal?


of course its normal. You didn't think our unaccountable three letter agencies were restricted by the constitution did you?
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May 17 2018 07:10am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 17 2018 07:03am)
Fbi just caught with their pants down. Was investigating Trump campaign without a warrant.

Unbiased? :rofl:


Link?
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May 17 2018 07:18am
Quote (IceMage @ May 17 2018 07:10am)
Link?


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html

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The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30740/bombshell-fbi-used-secret-warrantless-program-spy-ryan-saavedra

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They are controversial in part because they carry the force of law but are created entirely outside the judicial system: To issue one, an FBI official just needs to attest that the information sought is relevant to a national security investigation. The letters have also been criticized because they are shrouded in secrecy. Companies that receive them are for the most part forbidden from notifying their customers or the public. The government has fought to keep even basic rules governing them secret.


just ye olde 'ability to conduct searches and surveillance with no court approval, no subpoena, no probable cause, no due process, no right to privacy, no actual limitations- all wrapped up in a crispy gag order'
Constructed out of tortured logic by twisted third party doctrine and the patriot act, its a civil libertarians kryptonite. The 4th amendment, its more of what you'd call, a guideline.

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 17 2018 07:22am
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Quote (Goomshill @ May 17 2018 08:18am)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/16/us/politics/crossfire-hurricane-trump-russia-fbi-mueller-investigation.html



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
https://www.dailywire.com/news/30740/bombshell-fbi-used-secret-warrantless-program-spy-ryan-saavedra



just ye olde 'ability to conduct searches and surveillance with no court approval, no subpoena, no probable cause, no due process, no right to privacy, no actual limitations- all wrapped up in a crispy gag order'
Constructed out of tortured logic by twisted third party doctrine and the patriot act, its a civil libertarians kryptonite


Thank God you guys are the minority.
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May 17 2018 07:55am
Quote (IceMage @ May 17 2018 09:26am)
Thank God you guys are the minority.


Keep praying for that
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May 17 2018 08:00am
when the swamp gets elected to govern
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

someone's been removing data related to michael cohen from a govt financial crimes database
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May 17 2018 08:10am
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when the swamp gets elected to govern
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

someone's been removing data related to michael cohen from a govt financial crimes database


someone should be going to jail.
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May 17 2018 08:11am
Quote (duffman316 @ May 17 2018 08:00am)
when the swamp gets elected to govern
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

someone's been removing data related to michael cohen from a govt financial crimes database


and you think that 'someone' was an elected official? I mean I guess the AGs and SDNY and Mueller are appointees

This post was edited by Goomshill on May 17 2018 08:11am
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May 17 2018 08:20am
Quote (duffman316 @ May 17 2018 10:00am)
when the swamp gets elected to govern
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

someone's been removing data related to michael cohen from a govt financial crimes database


Eight anonymous “official law enforcement” sources :wacko:
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May 17 2018 08:38am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 17 May 2018 10:20)
Eight anonymous “official law enforcement” sources :wacko:



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