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Apr 10 2026 11:43pm
I wanted a simple polite conversation with an adult. Guess I'm not getting it, and this will be my last response and moving on. Just an fyi we don’t even have the original Roman records for many of the emperors, let alone a provincial execution. Most of what we know about the ancient world comes from later copies of historians like Tacitus and Josephus. You keep on rambling and writing lies and nonsense. Theres definitely a deeper issue here beyond religion and I hope one day you resolve it. Peace brother I hope you find your truth one day.


If you imagined a conversation taking place it must of been only in your head. Because you haven't made any point, no introduction, no actual debate of any kind.
All that has transpired here is you asked 1 question about jesus and I answered it. Then you decided to flunk out and insult me by calling me not being an adult accuse me of lying with no retort.

Come back when you have anything of substance.

Just in case you like to come back and actually debate have a look at this talk between christian and atheists debating eyewitness during time of supposed jesus.
You probably have the same queries



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Apr 11 2026 02:28am
You are talking about efficacy of a belief I am talking about authenticity of that belief.

You can threaten some people to not scam with a boogeyman, hell or a bolt of lightning from a sky wizard but that doesn’t make the boogeyman real.

If you are a bad person and the only thing stopping you from committing crimes is a belief in a deity then by all means use it.
That doesn't make religion true it just means religion can be a useful muzzle or a leash for bad people.

Btw still haven't answered my question "can you trust that there is no god?"


I've already had my encounter with Jesus. I am absolutely sure in my faith. Once again, the problem is not whether or not God exists. The problem is that you are rebellious and want nothing to do with him.

You refuse to repent of your sins. "Can you trust that there is no God?" That is not the correct question to be asking. The question is whether you will repent of your sins before it's too late? The clock is ticking.
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Apr 11 2026 03:50am
Genesis 2:16-17
And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”
Genesis 3:2
The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’

What actually happened (in the story)
They ate and touched the fruit and did not die they were just told to vacate the premises and live to a ripe old age of 930 for Adam and undisclosed age for Eve but they had babies and proceeded to not die and live their lives as nothing happened.

God is a liar, incompetent or doesn't exist.
Pick one or more options.


More scripture taken out of context.

These warnings did not discuss a "physical" death.
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Apr 11 2026 03:53am
Genesis 2:16-17
And the LORD God commanded him, “You may eat freely from every tree of the garden, 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”
Genesis 3:2
The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’

What actually happened (in the story)
They ate and touched the fruit and did not die they were just told to vacate the premises and live to a ripe old age of 930 for Adam and undisclosed age for Eve but they had babies and proceeded to not die and live their lives as nothing happened.

God is a liar, incompetent or doesn't exist.
Pick one or more options.

they did die though, it was a change in ontological nature. in the garden following His will they would never die.

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Apr 11 2026 03:59am
I've already had my encounter with Jesus. I am absolutely sure in my faith. Once again, the problem is not whether or not God exists. The problem is that you are rebellious and want nothing to do with him.

You refuse to repent of your sins. "Can you trust that there is no God?" That is not the correct question to be asking. The question is whether you will repent of your sins before it's too late? The clock is ticking.


"not correct question" lol wtf? It absolutely is a correct a question, one that should bother you greatly. It is a direct counter to your question "can you trust god?"
I am just returning the favour, your logic directly back to you.

If you cannot answer your own logic how do you expect others to answer you yours? This is called being a hypocrite and applying different set of criteria to assess truth.

I would like to know what is your criteria for accepting truth. Do you go by feelings and strong confirmation bias on some things and apply rigorous scientific hard proof and sound logic towards other beliefs? Or are all beliefs measured and tested equally? What does that look like?

More scripture taken out of context.

These warnings did not discuss a "physical" death.


What is this context and how are you ariving at the conclusion its not "physical" death?

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More scripture taken out of context.

These warnings did not discuss a "physical" death.

correct, death is separation, they experienced a ontological change from their separation from God (spiritual death) which leads to the biological death as they are subject to decay from their separation from the Life. God himself is the Life, separation from Him is death.
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Apr 11 2026 04:03am
"not correct question" lol wtf? It absolutely is a correct a question, one that should bother you greatly. It is a direct counter to your question "can you trust god?"
I am just returning the favour, your logic directly back to you.

If you cannot answer your own logic how do you expect others to answer you yours? This is called being a hypocrite and applying different set of criteria to assess truth.

I would like to know what is your criteria for accepting truth. Do you go by feelings and strong confirmation bias on some things and apply rigorous scientific hard proof and sound logic towards other beliefs? Or are all beliefs measured and tested equally? What does that look like?


your epistemology is "useful survival delusions" you have no justification on truth
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Apr 11 2026 04:21am
correct, death is separation, they experienced a ontological change from their separation from God (spiritual death) which leads to the biological death as they are subject to decay from their separation from the Life. God himself is the Life, separation from Him is death.


Where does it say "ontological" or "spritual" death? Sounds like you trying very hard to justify a clearly maniacal god who has consistently demonstrating has deep hunger for killing/genociding people and animals at a slightest disobedience. Have you not read the bible? All of a sudden he doesn't mean death like 999 times he means "spiritual" death. Without a reference you are just coping.
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Apr 11 2026 04:31am
Where does it say "ontological" or "spritual" death? Sounds like you trying very hard to justify a clearly maniacal god who has consistently demonstrating has deep hunger for killing/genociding people and animals at a slightest disobedience. Have you not read the bible? All of a sudden he doesn't mean death like 999 times he means "spiritual" death. Without a reference you are just coping.


the bible is liturgical, it is meant for the Church not private interpretation for whatever your arbitrary understanding of words is
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Apr 11 2026 05:32am
Where does it say "ontological" or "spritual" death? Sounds like you trying very hard to justify a clearly maniacal god who has consistently demonstrating has deep hunger for killing/genociding people and animals at a slightest disobedience. Have you not read the bible? All of a sudden he doesn't mean death like 999 times he means "spiritual" death. Without a reference you are just coping.


Fact vs opinion.

You continue to get corrected and refuse to adjust.

You simply want to take things out of context to fit a narrative that doesn't exist. This is a deliberate misrepresentation and your argument failed before you ever made the thread (was never your argument to begin with).

This thread holds the same premise as for example the globe vs flat earth argument.

Fact vs opinion.
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