No it's not. It's radical Bernie Sanders socialism stuff. Like I said, I'd rather have a corporate oligarchy than have the things that you advocate. Thankfully, I don't think your policies have much of a chance of coming here any time soon

You can read about the Democratic Party Platform here: https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/2020-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

Start on page 14 and I happen to disagree with most of it. I'm very against the idea of putting "workers first" in terms of any sort of trade deal. Workers are replaceable cogs in a machine and we should go with workers that create the most value. That happens to be non-Americans. I'm a nice guy so I support reeducation efforts for the proles. In addition, I believe that we should RAISE taxes on the poorest Americans because they have it far too easy right now. Under Clinton, the lowest tax bracket was 15% and GWB dropped it to 10%. I think that was a mistake.

Again, I don't have a crystal ball in terms of Senate/House makeup and that will dictate how much of the agenda gets passed. The NUMBER 1 issue of a Biden administration will be guiding us through COVID. Then it should be cleaning up the DOJ and codifying norms. After that, foreign policy. He's going to be a busy busy man!

No offense, but the bolded part is completely delusional. In no other first world nation is the bottom of society in such a precarious position and struggling as much as in the US.

Even more delusional is the notion that making poor Americans suffer even more than they already do would lead to any good political outcomes (from the point of view of someone like you). The more miserable and desperate the "proles and cogs in the machine" get, the more they will flock to populists and demagogues like Bernie and Trump, and the harder it will become for the neoliberal, technocratic policies you prefer to find majorities.

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I think the Democratic platform is... they hope Biden will keel over 1-2 months before the election, so they can substitute whoever they want.

oh my, you're confusing a couple of things there. the examples i gave that'd help the working class (which btw are not even 'radical' in america - if you looked at actual polling, and not just corporate narratives from the washington bubble) were a different point than what type of government i advocate, which of course is called a representative democracy - while you already admitted you're fine with an oligarchy.

i mean, it's pretty obvious that you're just trying to be a bit of an edge-lord with your ridiculous notions about taxing the poor more and your dismissive rhetoric against the working class, but that won't distract from the fact that you didn't even try provide any concrete examples of what the working class would likely get under biden even though they 'don't even deserve it', probably because even you know it's bs, and he's just a puppet of his donors.

why not just admit it was a bs claim? you already did the hard part by admitting you're ok with corporations having the monopoly on policy making. are you trying to demonstrate that you are indeed just a battered wife, actually believing the shit that has been proven wrong again and again? it's like those idiots who fall for the 'trickle down' shit all the time, lol...

How else are we going to pay for universal healthcare if the American tax payer doesn't pay for it? Just take a look at Germany's tax brackets vs. America's.



American tax rates are FAR lower than competitive European countries. If Americans want these benefits, they need to pay up. That's not being edgy...that's being sensible. America was FINE under Clinton's tax rates and I think going back to those in addition to adding more brackets at the top will go a long way to reducing the deficit and providing long term financial stability.

I gave you plenty of reading material and I said that I disagree with most of it. For example, in the document I provided it says they want to raise the minimum wage to $15 by the year 2026. That has a pretty good chance of passing and that is more than the working class deserves.

I just don't understand why you love peasants so much. They are people with dignity, yes. But they just don't have what it takes to do the right thing when it comes to most policy. They simply don't know what's best for them. Don't believe me? Look at Brexit. This is a GLOBAL phenomenon.

$15 minimum wage is pretty reasonable by 2026. That will probably be in line with what it was in the 70's lol

The world is different though due to globalism. I agree that if the economic factors were the same, we should probably keep minimum wage pegged to inflation. Look, we've done A LOT of things incorrectly by not making the correct investments. But I don't think minimum wage actually does much to address all the issues. I actually think it could make things WORSE.

Helping it :

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-15-minimum-wage-was-supposed-to-hurt-new-york-city-restaurants-but-both-revenue-and-employment-are-up-2019-10-28

A maximum total benefits package plus UBI would be a nice exchange to eliminate min wage.

Depending on who you ask everything makes it worse.

More investment? Just speeds up automation.
Less investment? People can't work because they have no skills.
More minimum wage? People are too expensive.
Less minimum wage? Wealth gap gets even larger faster.


The only way I see going forward is to get everybody trained as much as possible for the currently demanded industries, and hope they stay ahead of the automation curve. We've been on the automation curve since the late 1800's and we've managed to stay ahead. The only way to go is forward.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 3 2020 03:10pm