the unmitigated third world immigration and the issues it brings with it, as well as the euro crisis and the looming threat of a debt union, are the two huge topics in europe that are overshadowing everything else.
yes, there are other issues and topics, but none of them can be solved, or will matter in the grand scheme of things, if we dont find solutions to the migration and the euro crisis. and guess which two topics are making the so-called right-ring populists strong all across europe? the migration and the euro.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 17 2018 06:18am

oh shit, reset your timers

Luton stabbing: Seven people rushed to hospital after horror brawl – one critically ill

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1018445/Luton-stabbing-attack-Saxon-Road-victims-crime-Bedfordshire-Police

i will say it again, its not brownie fixation
its "brownies" having ridiculous crime rates that endanger public order and security

stop playing the racism card, THAT is getting boring

and if security isnt that high up on your list of problems right now then i should tell you that pretty much every nornal citizen will disagree with you on that
providing security, fighting/preventing crime and upholding public order is the most important job of any state, its what defines a state in the first place

there is no use to talk about anything else, if the state cant fulfill its most important tasks

'They play a role, and yes we might need to talk more about the economy, how to be ready for a future crisis and why my salary isn't going up enough compared to what the economy is doing!

Most of the grand scheme I see is: Trade routes moving to the east, China over reaching on the global economy and military influence, the US breaking up international agreements and institutions. Russia becoming more active in backyard wars, laundering money in our banks influencing our elections.

And most of them, seem to prefer the EU to be split apart... I wonder why

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 17 2018 04:57pm

ofc they fear a strong and united europe - but this EU is leading us to the opposite of a strong and united europe. this EU is an undemocratic, corrupted abomination that is actively harming the european states and people. the EU in its current form is dividing the people of europe instead of unifying them, it is standing in the way of solving problems instead of solving them itself, it is serving the interests of big, multinational corporations at the common people's expense instead of shielding the people against corporatism. this EU is a trojan horse, it is constantly creating new problems and amplifying existing ones. this EU is not the solution, it is a part of the problem. and I'm afraid that this EU is beyond repair. going back to square one would be a much better option than continuing on the path laid out by Juncker and other EUrocrats.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 17 2018 05:21pm

But that's actually what they have been doing, like telephone companies withing Europe are restricted from overcharging citizens when entering other countries. The only way to bind multinationals and form any type of protecting for citizens from is to have a strong EU. (/e: or better: a larger consumer base under a single type of legislation)
We are trying to form a sort of a middle ground of governments regulation on AI applications used by corporations. With the US being at one end, with more corporate freedom, and China on the other hand, with government control. This middle ground seems promising and only possible in an larger consumer based entity.
Going back to independence stepping out of the EU in our current time, is going to make a country more susceptible to influence from multinationals.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 17 2018 05:37pm

aside from you constantly dodging when you dont have answers anymore, you dont seem to realise that no foreign power needs to do anything right now to cause trouble in europe
just get some popcorn and watch EU idiots driving countries apart



their dream of a united states of europe, that would be some kind of socialist utopia and perfect playground for the big corporations to make maximum profit at the same time is truly terrifying



the exact opposite, thats why the EU is trying to dismantle national sovereignty
only the national state and its democracies can stop corporatism

and btw, we all know how member countries still follow their own agenda and become tax havens
like ireland did for apple, just to name example

This post was edited by ampoo on Sep 17 2018 05:40pm

Wealth is going towards corporation world wide, decreasing the wealth difference with countries and multinationals.
It almost seems like our politicians have become less capable than top CEO's because of it. And perhaps that might actually be the case.
But at least in Ireland, like you've mentioned, Apple was sewed by the EU, and the EU pushed for reforms, if Ireland would have been alone in it, that might not have happened.
The same was done to the Netherlands, to reform mail firm corporation and not be on lists of tax heavens for corporations. Europe pushing for reform to evade corporate taxation.
/e2: and lets not forget Microsoft internet explorer / google advertisement policy, EU is feared for sewing multinationals. I can't think of an entity doing it more...

/e: Our corporations are doing the same in Africa btw, more effective due to the countries not being economically/legally united.
The taxation a corporation like Heineken evades in Africa would increase some government spending with around a full percentage. And that's but one corporation.

This post was edited by Knoppie on Sep 17 2018 06:27pm