Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 25 Apr 2016 22:29)
There's this, too. I mean, I try to be able to back stuff up and every great once in a while someone on the other side actually cares enough to read.
If I had back all of the time that I took reading people's sources about dumb shit like 9/11 truth and anti-vax garbage, I could probably get a doctorate and have enough time leftover to hike the Appalachian trail a couple times over.
You're probably the minority in that respect. I agree that somebody should back stuff up every now and then but the other guy should be willing to take a serious consideration of the source.
Of all those sources that Datajunky for instance used to post the only thing that was convincing was his anti-fluoride stance, but he posted a bunch of tenuous stuff on freezing the pineal gland and babies with lower IQs than expected (which could be true but nobody has really done good studies on it) - what I found after a long enough time of research was that fluoride is not an essential micronutrient and can cause harm to people with compromised renal function. Where he saw a grand conspiracy effort between the aluminum industry and the federal government could have just been well-intentioned but misleading dental propaganda done before the science was really out yet.
Quote (majorblood @ 25 Apr 2016 22:30)
It is essential to back up claims with sources when they are relevant, whether or not someone makes use of this information is up to them. It is not your fault when someone else doesn't learn from valuable information.
I agree completely, the misuse of information is not the fault of whoever is arguing a stance, but that being said the onus of research should ultimately be up to whoever engages in sophistry, whether willing or unwilling. Credibility can and should be employed as a way to save time and effort.
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 25 Apr 2016 23:21)
You can cry all you want, but there's a big difference between Clinton and Trump as far as money goes. The Clintons are worth something like 45M, apparently. A used Cessna Citation X seems to go for around $10M according to a little bit of googling about, not to mention storage and upkeep and fuel and all that jazz.
It's hard for us poor folk to understand the shades of difference there, but it's about the same magnitude of difference between the Clintons and the average upper-middle class family as it is between the Clintons and Trump.
ETA: Barely related, but while I was looking for that, I got this lol:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/20/nyregion/donald-trumps-jet-a-regular-on-the-campaign-trail-is-not-registered-to-fly.htmlI don't see HRC as being personally likeable and neither does anybody in her camp. A lot of people in Trump's camp say he makes a serious effort towards small talk and being friendly with his staff.
This post was edited by general_patton on Apr 26 2016 08:22am