by your victim logic these places should have recovered from that evil oppression, but instead they went back to their prehistoric state, where they enslaved each other to make money from the slave trade

colonial times were an IMPROVEMENT, they even failed to use infrastructure left behind and wasted hundreds of billions of development aid

if only we didnt colonise the world.....the congolese would be landing on mars right now

maybe you should actually read up on what exactly the belgians did in congo. i bet not even a disgusting little bigot like you could pretend that was an "improvement"...
if you had the slightest clue about history, you'd realise how moronic that reply was, smh...

It goes without saying that knowledge is accretive, Greco-Roman thought remains a foundational pillar of Western society for good reason.

It was Western industrial development which spurred the vast majority of all economic and medical advancements in the last few hundred years. And it was exposure to the West, achieved through colonialism, that resulted in the transmission of that knowledge, including advancements made in bureaucracy, government organization, and modern systems of law. And of course colonization was with the expectation of profit and exploitation, it never would have been pursued otherwise. A honest, impartial appraisal of colonialism weighs both the very bad and the good.

The second component to this is that you're dramatically over-emphasizing colonialization, to the near complete exclusion of the other social, environmental, and economic factors which deserve the majority of the weight. South Korea is a first world state, despite brutal colonization by the Japanese which only ended in 1945, and suffering from the effects of a similarly destructive civil war followed by decades of repressive dictatorship. As late as the 1980s South Korea was an incredibly poor place. Their subsequent economic success has everything to do with Korea; it's thousand plus year history, the continuous existence of vast, well organized urban centers with an educated, intellectual elite, and the economic viability of the Korean peninsula itself. A strong national identity, liberal economic policies, and a history of successful statehood are far more important considerations.

everyone knows what happened there, but thanks for purposely misinterpret every single point with your toxicity

the belgians chopping hands off does not equal throwing away everything they left behind and being a shithole over 100 years later

there are places that had to rebuild more than once from nothing during that time and are still lightyears ahead

excuses after excuses, i feel sorry for you

In 1971, when Congo gained independence, it was widely regarded as one of the richest and most developed African countries. Half a century of cleptocracy and sectarian/tribal conflicts later, it's ranking consistently at the very bottom in terms of HDI and pretty much any other metric. But sure, Tutsi and Hutu butchering each other continuously since 1990 is all the fault of the guy who had his troops chop hands off a hundred years earlier. And according to fenderp, it is of course a racist dog whistle when someone has the audacity to compare a place like Congo with cases like Vietnam or Korea, or insinuates that there might be social and cultural factors which explain the disparate development.

When was the last time you used your gun to protect yourself Cam?

Its a fucking hobby now lol.



Yeah there is no way that there would be resentments due to hand collector Leopold having these guys cut each other up for not making his rubber quotas.

It is crazy they still to this day will not apologize as a nation. "Prosperous". For Leopold.



God damn that poor pickme.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 8 2022 04:17pm

watch fenderp dodge this somehow