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Apr 21 2018 06:40pm

Quote (IceMage @ Apr 21 2018 07:38pm)

The goalposts are always moving with the Trump cult, and I'm just bored enough to follow them. Hillary Clinton, like CNN, gets way too much shit on PaRD, so I'm happy to defend both.

Quote (IceMage @ Apr 21 2018 07:38pm)

The goalposts are always moving with the Trump cult, and I'm just bored enough to follow them. Hillary Clinton, like CNN, gets way too much shit on PaRD, so I'm happy to defend both.

defend LA and new york because america won't

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Apr 21 2018 07:02pm

Quote (Thor123422 @ 21 Apr 2018 20:35)

He said Hillary wasn't a candidate who campaigned on policy.

You could have stopped there and concluded he isn't able/willing to make accurate assessments.

“drumpf bad its my turn you deplorable bigot” is not policy in the real world. it might be in your tiny little small time village

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Apr 21 2018 07:03pm

Quote (excellence @ Apr 21 2018 07:02pm)

“drumpf bad its my turn you deplorable bigot” is not policy in the real world. it might be in your tiny little small time village

Nobody expects you to have a real opinion, with your mental difficulties and all.

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Apr 21 2018 07:21pm

Quote (Thor123422 @ 21 Apr 2018 21:03)

Nobody expects you to have a real opinion, with your mental difficulties and all.

says the election-denying fella on state subsidy and reliant on mommie in-law for groceries, despite being born with more privilege than most of the world could dream of

then again youre the brainlet that got bamboozled by flat-earth guy:

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Quote (card_sultan @ 18 Jul 2015 16:52)

People trying to kill the laughter lol, Trumps a big boy - he just uses that as jet fuel in his fleet of Limousines.
I say the chips fall where they may, and let the debates decide on the winners.

Yeah no. The election isn't decided at the debates. He won't even make it that far.

no wonder you’re so out of touch :rofl:

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Apr 21 2018 08:36pm

Quote (IceMage @ Apr 21 2018 06:36pm)

There's a difference between saying a candidate is malleable on some issues(like trade for instance), and claiming that a candidate stands for nothing, and has never really had any solid viewpoints or vision for the country. The latter is just a nonsensical right-wing talking point which some Bernie Bros decided to adopt as well.

'malleable on some issues'? She was getting skewered the entire election season by both left and right for being a worm. It was easily recognized as her main shortcoming;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfmwGAd1L-o#1m40s
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/04/as-clinton-recovers-in-polls-trust-issue-simmers/
http://harvardpolitics.com/united-states/exactly-wrong-hillary-clinton/
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/hillary-clinton-pandering-radio/479004/
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/hillary-clinton-messaging-225581
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trade-tpp-20160926-snap-story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-regrets-her-iraq-vote-but-opting-for-intervention-was-a-pattern/2016/09/15/760c23d0-6645-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html?utm_term=.0b3ae14316bb
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/17/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-change-position-same-sex-marriage/

^ whats the top comments on that one? "Dont forget the binders full of poll tested talking points" "Why make promises when you can lie for your voters to win and do jack on anything?" "At this point Hillary will do anything/say anything to get votes, lol.".
That, and the bernie bros ragging on her for being in the pocket of big banks.

The very first issue you named to look at Hillary for a coherent policy messaging and sincerity is one where she did a full 180 flip flop from being a tough-on-crime regressive to trying to co-opt black lives matter progressive.
What you're arguing with isn't my perception, but the perception shared so widely among conservatives, trump supporters, bernie bros, reluctant hillary voters and even some who went hard for her.
I think that once something is common enough knowledge and widely accepted that even SNL can run gags on it assuming the audience agrees- even when depreciating the candidate they are shilling for- we can stop dismissing it as the construct of a biased lens from the other side's partisans. Hillary wasn't smeared as a flip flopper and pragmatist because Trump ran a baseless dirty campaign, she already reeked of it back in 2008. Thats why I didn't vote for her then. So how am I supposed to track that genesis to being from the Trump cult and Bernie bros?

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Apr 21 2018 09:38pm

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"People trying to kill the laughter lol, Trumps a big boy - he just uses that as jet fuel in his fleet of Limousines.
I say the chips fall where they may, and let the debates decide on the winners."

TMW you agree with a flat earther :lol:

This post was edited by JohnMiller92 on Apr 21 2018 09:38pm

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Apr 21 2018 10:04pm

Quote (IceMage @ Apr 21 2018 08:11pm)

No Trumpshill, everyone in the country doesn't accept your perspective on Hillary Clinton. This discussion is just getting ridiculous at this point.

Are you telling me people don't have the exact same views on everything 20 years later? Mind=blown. In the 90s Trump was a Democrat, now he's governing as a conservative populist. Again, your anti-Hillary bias is obvious, you aren't able to accurately assess her.

It's nothing compared to your anti-Trump bias.

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Apr 21 2018 10:24pm

Quote (Ghot @ Apr 21 2018 10:04pm)

It's nothing compared to your anti-Trump bias.

I kinda want to believe its an opposite-equal forces ying-yang relationship

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Apr 21 2018 10:27pm

Quote (Plaquelord @ Apr 21 2018 05:40pm)

defend LA and new york because america won't

Uh, what does this even mean? We are the cultural and economic centers of the U.S.

NYC by itself has a larger GDP than Russia. LA County has a higher GDP than Russia. And you suck Russia's dick but not your own countrymen betters?

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Apr 21 2018 10:29pm

Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 21 2018 10:24pm)

I kinda want to believe its an opposite-equal forces ying-yang relationship

It's nowhere near equal

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