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Nov 11 2016 11:28pm
Winners!
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Nov 11 2016 11:32pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Nov 11 2016 11:52am)
I don't think polls were rigged, I think the polls were wrong. Betting markets gave Trump between a 20-30% chance of winning, it's pretty reasonable to suggest that a 2-3 point polling error gave Trump the victory and he reached that 20-30%.

Additionally, I don't think polls were able to successfully pick up all the Trump momentum in the last week in the face of the FBI reopening their investigation. A Clinton 8 point lead rapidly evaporated to a 3 point lead, and maybe polls just couldn't pick up the momentum fast enough before election. Some polls even had Trunp ahead.



The Barney Sandals one was way better.


The polls were neither rigged nor wrong. People act like the underdog winning means Clinton wasn't the favorite. With the information we had, she was.
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if by delusional you mean blatantly posting out of date materials in the vain hope that an undecided voter sees it, misses the date, and is effected in their vote, then yes.

He's a disingenuous pleb, giving him credit for being delusional is offensive to people with real clinically diagnosed delusions.


Your candidate won.

I admit defeat.
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Nov 11 2016 11:39pm
I know very little about the intricacies of your presidential election system beyond a rough understanding of the electoral college.

I'm wondering, do super electors vote the same night they are elected, or do they wait further?

How likely is it that trump would get ousted from the white house before being sworn in, and How'd they do that?
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I know very little about the intricacies of your presidential election system beyond a rough understanding of the electoral college.

I'm wondering, do super electors vote the same night they are elected, or do they wait further?

How likely is it that trump would get ousted from the white house before being sworn in, and How'd they do that?


There's like a 1% chance of this at best.
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Nov 11 2016 11:42pm
Every decision this woman made her entire adult life was carefully calculated towards achieving this one goal. Her campaign for Senate was the start of her presidential campaign. In the end, a damned idiot with a red hat who has zero political experience thoroughly destroyed her. She has zero chance at ever achieving her goal now. On election night a room full of her supporters waited and waited to hear their leader speak, but she never appeared before them, if only to offer some words of comfort to those who fought for her. All she could manage to do was make a private phone call conceding her defeat. I am overcome with joy this cunt will never see the office she so desperately wanted.
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Every decision this woman made her entire adult life was carefully calculated towards achieving this one goal. Her campaign for Senate was the start of her presidential campaign. In the end, a damned idiot with a red hat who has zero political experience thoroughly destroyed her. She has zero chance at ever achieving her goal now. On election night a room full of her supporters waited and waited to hear their leader speak, but she never appeared before them, if only to offer some words of comfort to those who fought for her. All she could manage to do was make a private phone call conceding her defeat. I am overcome with joy this cunt will never see the office she so desperately wanted.


I don't think I'll ever forgive Clinton for her selfishness. She insisted on running despite Sanders being the clearly better choice and her party and her country are paying for it.
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Quote (Voyaging @ 11 Nov 2016 23:32)
The polls were neither rigged nor wrong. People act like the underdog winning means Clinton wasn't the favorite. With the information we had, she was.


She was the favorite, but the polls were wrong. How were they correct? The predicted about a 3.2 point Clinton win nationally and she only won by about 0.2 points.

Additionally, the polls had her ahead in states like Florida, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, all states she lost. The polls were incorrect, no?
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Quote (ThatAlex @ Nov 12 2016 01:04am)
She was the favorite, but the polls were wrong. How were they correct? The predicted about a 3.2 point Clinton win nationally and she only won by about 0.2 points.

Additionally, the polls had her ahead in states like Florida, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, all states she lost. The polls were incorrect, no?


If I'm playing Hold 'em heads-up and I have pocket Aces and my opponent has 7 2 offsuit, is it wrong that I all-in even if he gets a full house from the community?

The correctness of a probabilistic claim is not based on the outcome, it is based on the likelihood of the outcome given the information that is available. If you're interested in this kind of stuff, Bayesian probability is one of the most important and useful things I've ever learned.

I should correct myself, I'm not necessarily saying the polls were correct, they may not have been, I'm just saying that just because the outcome was in favor of the underdog doesn't mean they were wrong. Just because the guy with a 30% chance of winning won doesn't mean he only had a 30% chance of winning. 30% isn't that unlikely.

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