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Mar 28 2015 03:22pm
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Mar 28 2015 04:44am)
You have to be aware of balance my friend, I spent many years working 60-80 hours especially when i was my own boss sub contracting there was a visceral gloating in paying cash for a new truck and bringing it home. But there were a few years when I'd come home and kiss my kids on the head while they were sleeping then leave in the morning before they woke-up. I missed some quality growing time with my older children and damaged a relationship that will never be the same. Yes you have to take care of the family I'm not denying that I'm just saying don't lose something that you'll regret later in trying to gain more than what is necessary.


If you work 10 hours per day and then 5 hours each day on the weekend (by working remotely) then you have PLENTY of time for balance. Or, you could work 12 hours per day on weekdays. Seems like plenty of time to have fun. 12 hours of work, 3 hours for commuting/eating, 2 hours of free time with family/friends, and 7 hours for sleep.

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They are already at top rung, I'm talking about people who are lower and need to advance or change fields to do that. I work probably 60 hours total between research and school and work, but if I was doing that in a dead end job I would have little opportunity to improve myself to escape it.


When I was in grad school, I was putting in 80 hour work weeks...no way I would have been able to have a job too. Granted, I pushed myself to the limits with course work. If you have a dead end job, then work a part time 40 hour week and use the other 20 hours for educating yourself to do something that you enjoy more.
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Mar 28 2015 05:18pm
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If you work 10 hours per day and then 5 hours each day on the weekend (by working remotely) then you have PLENTY of time for balance. Or, you could work 12 hours per day on weekdays. Seems like plenty of time to have fun. 12 hours of work, 3 hours for commuting/eating, 2 hours of free time with family/friends, and 7 hours for sleep.



When I was in grad school, I was putting in 80 hour work weeks...no way I would have been able to have a job too. Granted, I pushed myself to the limits with course work. If you have a dead end job, then work a part time 40 hour week and use the other 20 hours for educating yourself to do something that you enjoy more.


My wife won't let me work more. If I wasn't married I would have stopped paying rent and set up a cot in the lab. In the end I don't see that being fulfilling for most people. Not all of our passions can be fulfilled by work. I just don't see it being a healthy way to be for most people.

Umm.... Two hours for family? What about the time to take the car to the mechanic? Grocery shopping? Cooking? House work? Your schedule doesn't add up to having time most weeks.

Quote (Santara @ Mar 28 2015 12:28pm)
Sure you do. You miss flights and have to pay exorbitant same-day hotel fees. Extra car rentals. You miss business appointments on return flights. A coworker of mine just came back from vacation, and his flight was 3 minutes late arriving at an airport for connection, and they didn't hold it. His wife spent the next 3 hours on the phone postponing appointments with clients over 2 days that she is a real-estate agent for. I guarantee there's an opportunity cost in that.


You're giving them credit for things they didn't take into account. This was purely for the time spent for vacation passengers, the business passengers were a higher estimate. These weren't for delays resulting in missed flights, this was for 15 minutes of delay being checked by the TSA, nothing more. Your friend missing his flight wasn't due to the TSA checking his bags since every flight has that and it's incorporated into the system. If his flight was 3 minutes late and it resulted in him missing his next flight that's shitty planning on his part for scheduling it so tightly and not taking measures in case something like that happened. Planes are late due to shit like strong wind all the time. You're just doing what you always do though. Not reading the report and latching onto any conclusion that fits your opinion.

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You're giving them credit for things they didn't take into account. This was purely for the time spent for vacation passengers, the business passengers were a higher estimate. These weren't for delays resulting in missed flights, this was for 15 minutes of delay being checked by the TSA, nothing more. Your friend missing his flight wasn't due to the TSA checking his bags since every flight has that and it's incorporated into the system. If his flight was 3 minutes late and it resulted in him missing his next flight that's shitty planning on his part for scheduling it so tightly and not taking measures in case something like that happened. Planes are late due to shit like strong wind all the time. You're just doing what you always do though. Not reading the report and latching onto any conclusion that fits your opinion.


You're bending over backwards to deny that such costs exist, regardless of how they were presented in the report.

I did not state he missed his flight because of the TSA, I said he missed his flight. That demonstrates that a person ON VACATION can still have delays and they impose costs.

@ bold: the fuck if I did anything of the sort. I posted a graphic. Stop acting as if it's incumbent on me to go needle-dicking the source material. That's your anal-retentive ass, not me.
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Mar 28 2015 06:17pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 28 2015 06:00pm)
You're bending over backwards to deny that such costs exist, regardless of how they were presented in the report.

I did not state he missed his flight because of the TSA, I said he missed his flight. That demonstrates that a person ON VACATION can still have delays and they impose costs.

@ bold: the fuck if I did anything of the sort. I posted a graphic. Stop acting as if it's incumbent on me to go needle-dicking the source material. That's your anal-retentive ass, not me.


Then how about say "I didn't read it, I just used it as a talking point" instead of bending over backwards to deny obviously dishonest methodology. Oh, and nice straw man (italics).

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Mar 28 2015 06:19pm
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Then how about say "I didn't read it, I just used it as a talking point" instead of bending over backwards to deny obviously dishonest methodology.


Probably because it's fucking obvious it's a talking point? Except to you. Lol, dishonesty still.
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Mar 28 2015 06:23pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 28 2015 06:19pm)
Probably because it's fucking obvious it's a talking point? Except to you. Lol, dishonesty still.


When every post is of that quality it becomes difficult to disambiguate talking points from legitimate discussion. Where am I being dishonest? I never denied opportunity costs exist even on vacation time, I merely informed you that you're giving too much credit since that's pretty obviously not what they are doing.
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Mar 28 2015 06:38pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 28 2015 07:23pm)
When every post is of that quality it becomes difficult to disambiguate talking points from legitimate discussion. Where am I being dishonest? I never denied opportunity costs exist even on vacation time, I merely informed you that you're giving too much credit since that's pretty obviously not what they are doing.


Legitimate discussion? Didn't that leave PaRD years ago? I didn't say YOU were dishonest. I'm making fun of you clinging to the notion that they were dishonest.
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Mar 28 2015 06:54pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 28 2015 06:38pm)
Legitimate discussion? Didn't that leave PaRD years ago? I didn't say YOU were dishonest. I'm making fun of you clinging to the notion that they were dishonest.


Yes, yes it did. Sometimes I like to pretend though.
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Mar 28 2015 08:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 28 2015 03:18pm)
My wife won't let me work more. If I wasn't married I would have stopped paying rent and set up a cot in the lab. In the end I don't see that being fulfilling for most people. Not all of our passions can be fulfilled by work. I just don't see it being a healthy way to be for most people.

Umm.... Two hours for family? What about the time to take the car to the mechanic? Grocery shopping? Cooking? House work? Your schedule doesn't add up to having time most weeks.


Two hours on weekdays. On weekends, you obviously have time to do fun things and catch up on house work.
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