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Quote (NiRo_O @ Oct 15 2023 06:52am)
"Israel is doing better by numbers."
Gilad shalit's trade, have you heard of it?
we rescued one israeli soilder and gave in return for it 1000~ palestinian criminals (many terrorists).
are we doing better in numbers?
by this equation, for what theyve done, they should be wiped.

If israel would lay down their weapons it would not exist, on the other hand if the arab nations around us would lay down their weapons, there would be peace.


They kill civilians at a factor 10-15x their foe. They are better at genocide by numbers

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Quote (NiRo_O @ 15 Oct 2023 19:52)
"Israel is doing better by numbers."
Gilad shalit's trade, have you heard of it?
we rescued one israeli soilder (hostage in gaza) and gave in return for it 1000~ palestinian criminals (many terrorists).
are we doing better in numbers?

If israel would lay down their weapons it would not exist, on the other hand if the arab nations around us would lay down their weapons, there would be peace.



Never Negotiate with Muslim Terrorists.
Either you rewire their medieval thinking to help them, or you need to fix them in other ways.


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Quote (Many_Names @ 15 Oct 2023 13:28)
I know he has no solution, but let me tell you something you do not know.
Up until this massacre left wing Israelis such as myself , wanted to make peace with them.
Its done!
We gonna hit them so hard they will beg us to stop


Quote (NiRo_O @ 15 Oct 2023 13:23)
Im not responsible for them, they wanted us to leave the area and we left it.
all the money we delivered to Gaza strip's citizens (millions of dollars) eventually went to terror organizations and backstabbed us...
All the inocents that died by israel's strikes are Hamas' fault, they are using them as human shield.
This picture explains the situation best:
https://i.imgur.com/QyC2C32.png


Hopefully people are stupid and do not know Gaza was an open sky prison for decades. Mission Accomplished... Or not ?
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 15 2023 03:04pm)
Hopefully people are stupid and do not know Gaza was an open sky prison for decades. Mission Accomplished... Or not ?


So whats your solution?
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Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 15 2023 06:33am)
We are not dictatorship it wont work here.

I served in the military I never even thought about killing civilians thats madness!

Its pure evil

I hope netanyahu have balls to keep the siege until they return our hostages



Should start thinking brother, both sides killing civilian for a long time. One doing it better.

Israel =
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/crybully

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SOLUTION A


1. Two carrier groups, move one further north to Lebanon.

2. Open 3 to 4 corridors down South closer to Egypt. Children age 13 and below and women to leave and prepare humanitarian aid to them and get countries to put them up temporarily if possible. A burden that has to be shared with UN involved.

3. Lay Siege. Open tightly guarded channels East of Gaza, for men to surrender. And sieve them out bit by bit. Going to take a while since there will be close to 1M population, men of fighting age 18 to 55 will be around max 500K conservatively speaking.

4. Holding facilities for thorough investigation into perpetrators and Hamas extremists.

Just my thoughts.

A lot of work, but don't need to bomb too much.







SOLUTION B


The first step is to extend an olive branch to Russia and China and to withhold NeoCon and NeoLib ambitions for an X period of time.

Bring India into the equation to balance out. Ukraine will be the sacrificial lamb sadly, but they don't have to lose more territories.

That's a good start.

Religious part, employ South East Asia Muslim countries to engage with Palestine.

A Muslim Problem can only be solved by Muslim.

Political and security issues can be pressured into a more stable situation with the combined efforts of USA, India, Russia and China.


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Quote (fender @ 15 Oct 2023 13:14)
so the women and children you're starving and slaughtering are all hamas then? or are those that kill them "animals" too? so why do palestinians have to live next to such "animals"?

looking at the numbers, israeli "animals" have killed so much more children than hamas "animals" - yet you act like a victim, while hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings without electricity or water are fleeing from your tanks and bombs.



Where can they flee? Hamas have locked them in to die, Hamas are using them as human shields, they have nowhere to run.. Hamas later use the civilians killed as a victim card of ”Israels terrorism and colonization”

Their are always casuilties in war but Israel are defending itself from all the Arab nations surrounding their borders that follows Irans ideology of one caliphat in the middle east, their goal is to deatroy Israel and make the entire region muslim.
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Quote (Many_Names @ 15 Oct 2023 13:20)
Besides the fact that We are not targeting any women and children.
What is your solution?


you're not "targeting" them, you're just indiscriminately imprisoning, starving, and bombing EVERYONE, including women, children, elderly, innocent people. somehow that makes it "better"? hamas also murdered everyone in their attack, not just children. it's not a meaningful distinction, both sides cause unnecessary harm and death to defenceless civilians. hamas' methods might appear more barbaric, since they don't have tanks and aircraft at their disposal like "civilised" killers do, but israel still outmurders them by more than twenty to one.

the solution would have been to use that incredibly expensive military and the highly sophisticated intelligence network israel has to dismantle hamas

- WITHOUT creating yet another humanitarian catastrophe amongst an alread oppressed population living in an open air prison
- WITHOUT slaughtering thousands of innocent people, creating so much suffering and resentment that will inevitably create more violence down the road (at which point you will again resort to acting surprised about why those people could possibly hate you so much, launching "completely unprovoked" attacks)
- WITHOUT committing yet another ethnic cleansing.

netanyahu should have stopped propping up hamas a long time ago. he is, to a large degree, responsible for the fact they became so powerful in gaza. he used them as a tool, accepting the occasional attack as a price he would gladly pay in order to prevent more moderate voices from gaining power and control. what a costly miscalculation that was... he had to abandon his core aim of never allowing a palestinian state to exist.

the only real solution is that the occupation must end - one way or another. while there is an occupation, there will ALWAYS be violence and hate, it's inevitable. there is no humane or peaceful way to imprison and deprive millions of people, who have done nothing wrong, of their basic rights and needs. as long as there is an occupation, there will be resistance, and it'd be absurd and dishonest to expect anything else.

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Quote (fender @ Oct 15 2023 03:28pm)
you're not "targeting" them, you're just indiscriminately imprisoning, starving, and bombing EVERYONE, including women, children, elderly, innocent people. somehow that makes it "better"? hamas also murdered everyone in their attack, not just children. it's not a meaningful distinction, both sides cause unnecessary harm and death to defenceless civilians. hamas' methods might appear more barbaric, since they don't have tanks and aircraft at their disposal like "civilised" killers do, but israel still outmurders them by more than twenty to one.

the solution would have been to use that incredibly expensive military and the highly sophisticated intelligence network israel has to dismantle hamas

- WITHOUT creating yet another humanitarian catastrophe amongst an alread oppressed population living in an open air prison
- WITHOUT slaughtering thousands of innocent people, creating so much suffering and resentment that will inevitably create more violence down the road (at which point you will again resort to acting surprised about why those people could possibly hate you so much, launching "completely unprovoked" attacks)
- WITHOUT committing yet another ethnic cleansing.

netanyahu should have stopped propping up hamas a long time ago. he is, to a large degree, responsible for the fact they became so powerful in gaza. he used them as a tool, accepting the occasional attack as a price he would gladly pay in order to prevent more moderate voices from gaining power and control. what a costly miscalculation that was... he had to abandon his core aim of never allowing a palestinian state to exist.

the only real solution is that the occupation must end - one way or another. while there is an occupation, there will ALWAYS be violence and hate, it's inevitable. there is no humane or peaceful way to imprison and deprive millions of people, who have done nothing wrong, of their basic rights and needs. as long as there is an occupation, there will be resistance, and it'd be absurd and dishonest to expect anything else.


Ok come help us dismantle hamas then. Clueless.
You sound so smart but look so stupid 🤣 no offense.

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