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Mar 13 2018 06:53pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Mar 14 2018 11:52am)
I agree, but I keep reading how it’s simply a result of the system or environment Donald has created


Trump was not in power in the 80's when it was at its height lol.
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Quote (thundercock @ Mar 13 2018 06:30pm)
Has he done these things while Trump's been in office though? That's the million dollar question.

There's not much Trump criticism on the forums these days from typical Republican/Libertarian posters (you and IceMage excluded). Maybe it's just due to poster fatigue.


There's a year of threads to look through.

There's a lot of poster fatigue on my part, and I don't think it's fair to describe Icemage as a Republican anymore.
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Quote (Skinned @ Mar 13 2018 07:49pm)
He's never really criticized Trump because Republicans have a hard time criticizing each other. Cam is a free trade Republican, not a libertarian. Libertarians criticize police violence against minorities and support women's reproductive rights...Cam has never done these things. He will say something stupid like BLM is a terrorist organization in a heartbeat instead of acknowledge that their concerns are valid and they are subject to a huge amount of slander by low information Breitbarters. That isn't libertarian at all. You can't hate the left and be a libertarian, because libertarian is half left.

http://libertyviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/libertarians.jpg

And Yeah, its poster fatigue. No real reason to put real effort into the dialectic like the old days. Just call them a cuck and move on, especially garbage-tier posters like disembodied head and endlesscry.


I criticize unjust police violence against anyone. that doesnt mean i have to buy into your delusions that trayvon martin was innocent or ignore BLM riots and incorrect talking points.
I value truth and turning police violence and crime into a divisive race issue on fallacious grounds isn't helping.

Libertarians are split on abortion and i'm what would be considered by many moderately pro-choice. I mostly have a problem with unnecessary late term abortions.
I also oppose force-funding abortion clinics and occasionally cut through the positions of pro-abortionists.

Citing some meme chart that tries to help explain it to the layman doesn't mean its actually exactly 'half left' or half of the modern left.
Personal freedom and civil liberties aren't necessarily "left", but they are libertarian and i have consistently supported them. Leftist strongholds are opposing these things on a regular basis.
Libertarianism is about liberty and non-aggression. My views are consistently and staunchly libertarian.

not being left enough for your liking isn't equivalent to not being libertarian

..of course, you know all of this and trolling and toxic framing is your shtick now. corrupt the impressionable minds who don't know better through the use of dishonest tactics.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Mar 13 2018 07:13pm
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"if you don't support late term abortions w/ tax payer money you are not a libertarian"
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Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 13 2018 01:34pm)
"couple of lefties doesnt represent the sub"

sub speaks up

"lol im smarter than you all"

there's nothing wrong really with being like you, just something wrong with being delusional about being you. since trump won you've been so drunk on liberal tears you've been mum on almost anything coming out of the WH. watching posters like you, ofthevoid, and a few others devolve into the state you're in would be sad if i didnt love confirming my biases about you stooges so much.


<3

I love this thread. I've been asleep for the past 7 hours and woke up to the rest of the sub piling on Cam.

It was a nice treat.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 13 2018 07:12pm)
I criticize unjust police violence against anyone. that doesnt mean i have to buy into your delusions that trayvon martin was innocent or ignore BLM riots and incorrect talking points.
I value truth and turning police violence and crime into a divisive race issue on fallacious grounds isn't helping.

Libertarians are split on abortion and i'm what would be considered by many moderately pro-choice. I mostly have a problem with unnecessary late term abortions.
I also oppose force-funding abortion clinics and occasionally cut through the positions of pro-abortionists.

Citing some meme chart that tries to help explain it to the layman doesn't mean its actually exactly 'half left' or half of the modern left.
Personal freedom and civil liberties aren't necessarily "left", but they are libertarian and i have consistently supported them. Leftist strongholds are opposing these things on a regular basis.
Libertarianism is about liberty and non-aggression. My views are consistently and staunchly libertarian.

not being left enough for your liking isn't equivalent to not being libertarian

..of course, you know all of this and trolling and toxic framing is your shtick now. corrupt the impressionable minds who don't know better through the use of dishonest tactics.


It happens that every time "Libertarians are split" you "just happen" to fall in line with the Republican party.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 13 2018 07:19pm
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 13 2018 07:12pm)
I criticize unjust police violence against anyone. that doesnt mean i have to buy into your delusions that trayvon martin was innocent or ignore BLM riots and incorrect talking points.
I value truth and turning police violence and crime into a divisive race issue on fallacious grounds isn't helping.

Libertarians are split on abortion and i'm what would be considered by many moderately pro-choice. I mostly have a problem with unnecessary late term abortions.
I also oppose force-funding abortion clinics and occasionally cut through the positions of pro-abortionists.

Citing some meme chart that tries to help explain it to the layman doesn't mean its actually exactly 'half left' or half of the modern left.
Personal freedom and civil liberties aren't necessarily "left", but they are libertarian and i have consistently supported them. Leftist strongholds are opposing these things on a regular basis.
Libertarianism is about liberty and non-aggression. My views are consistently and staunchly libertarian.

not being left enough for your liking isn't equivalent to not being libertarian

..of course, you know all of this and trolling and toxic framing is your shtick now. corrupt the impressionable minds who don't know better through the use of dishonest tactics.


I don't know about you, but I love having my praxeology defined for me by someone else!
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Quote (Scaly @ Mar 13 2018 07:41pm)
Quite possibly. Say one thing bad about Trump and you're guaranteed about 3 pages of Trumpettes ranting about how 'libtards' are such 'cucks', Hillary and Obama are literally Hitler and Trump won so get over it etc. Hard to keep it up in the face of such fanatical idiocy tbh.

LoOkS lIkE sCaLy NeEdS a SaFe SpAcE (troll text)

It’s almost the exact opposite though, or it at least happens on both sides if nothing else, mate

[If I wanted to be dramatic, I could say] Say one good thing about trump/bad thing about the left & you’re guaranteed about 3 pages of the anti-trump derangement syndrome team ranting about how ’trumpettes’ or the ‘trump cult’ are ‘stupid/racist/ignorant’ ,Trump is literally hitler, his supporters are all white supremacists, & Trump only won because Russia & racists. Hard to keep it up in the face of such fanatical idiocy tbh.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Mar 13 2018 07:53pm)
Trump was not in power in the 80's when it was at its height lol.






This post was edited by IgoSoHard on Mar 13 2018 07:29pm
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 13 2018 05:18pm)
<3

I love this thread. I've been asleep for the past 7 hours and woke up to the rest of the sub piling on Cam.

It was a nice treat.



It happens that every time "Libertarians are split" you "just happen" to fall in line with the Republican party.

there isn't anything contradicting here, cam is an ancap aka right wing leaning libertarian so he's going to agree with the republican party more often than the democrats on many issues, but some obvious differences are the war on drugs, military intervention, and things of that nature.

i'm not sure how this is hard to understand or even important to people on this forum. why are people desperately trying to categorize cambovenzi?

This post was edited by majorblood on Mar 13 2018 07:24pm
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 13 Mar 2018 21:18)
<3

I love this thread. I've been asleep for the past 7 hours and woke up to the rest of the sub piling on Cam.

It was a nice treat.

yep sleeping all day after having mommie-in-law pick up the state subsidy check must be quite nice

Quote (majorblood @ 13 Mar 2018 21:23)
there isn't anything contradicting here, cam is an ancap aka right wing leaning libertarian so he's going to agree with the republican party more often than the democrats on many issues, but some obvious differences are the war on drugs, military intervention, and things of that nature.

i'm not sure how this is hard to understand or even important to people on this forum. why are people desperately trying to categorize cambovenzi?

because its easy to categorize those one disagrees with - unfortunately history tells us one “side” or “team” acts in a massively antagonistic and violent manner towards the other in a disproportionate level.

see: soviet union, national-socialist germany, maoist china, etc.

This post was edited by excellence on Mar 13 2018 07:46pm
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Quote (excellence @ Mar 13 2018 05:42pm)
because its easy to categorize those one disagrees with - unfortunately history tells us one “side” or “team” acts in a massively antagonistic and violent manner towards the other in a disproportionate level.

see: soviet union, national-socialist germany, maoist china, etc.



Mmmmm moist china

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