Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 2 2020 07:11pm)

Youre just finding the most biased polls and getting a hard on every time. Vegas has them at 50/50.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 3 Sep 2020 04:03)

Yeah, the data last time wasn't actually bad, it's just that the polls swung so fast with the Comey letter nobody believed them.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 3 Sep 2020 04:15)

I'm just gonna point something out about science real quick.

This isn't as uncommon as people think in science. Measurements are notoriously hard to make, and results aren't always reproducible except in very very specific circumstances. So when people think science is a fool-proof method, they're wrong. Usually this kind of thing only gets settled after A LOOOOOT of debate and data collecting across many labs. For instance, to correct global temperature measurement for satellite orbital drift required a decade of debate and measurement between two camps who had competing ideas of how to correct it. We genuinely didn't know if global warming was happening until this data was figured out. That was in the 70's though, and we've known for a long time that global warming is happening, but the point is that things we take for granted are often only there after decades of fighting and correcting each other.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 2 2020 07:16pm)

That's only half the story of 2016 polling. Yes, the national polls were pretty good, and they are surely forgiven for missing the late movement caused by the Comey letter. But the state level polls were far worse, and that's the real story of 2016.

In reality, pollsters missed two trends moving in opposite directions: disaffected white non-college people who hadnt voted in a long time turning out specifically for Trump, and disaffected low turnout minority voters turning out specifically to vote against Trump. The former group is plentiful in the Rust Belt and got Trump across the finish line there, while the latter group lead to his smaller than expected margins in states like AZ, TX or GA. On a national level, these trends roughly cancelled each other out, but on the state level, they led to big polling errors in both directions.

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 2 2020 10:16pm)

Vegas is dumb and I'm not sure why you would trust them. The media WANTS a horse race (ratings) and Vegas is reacting to that.

Foxnews isn't a particularly biased pollster either. They are high quality and these results are roughly in line with polling averages.

Quote (fender @ Sep 2 2020 09:48pm)

https://i.imgur.com/bo6kmDR.jpg

#woke establishment

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 2 Sep 2020 18:58)

Also keep in mind that Comey did not release the infamous "Comey letter" in the final stretch of the 2016 campaign to hurt Hillary - he did it because he was sure of Hillary's win and wanted to preserve the pubic image of the FBI after they had softballed her on her emails. The media then had no other choice than to cover this letter...

Quote (excellence @ Sep 2 2020 10:51pm)

^goomshill

speaking of Biden copying Trump lmao

https://media.thedonald.win/post/M65vBXlF.jpeg

Quote (inkanddagger @ 3 Sep 2020 02:01)

Yes, Donald Trump's mere presence is divisive; it obviously had nothing to do with his words, which were all about acknowledging the grievances of both sides and working to broker unity and peace and an end to the partisan strife.

Quote (inkanddagger @ 28 Aug 2020 21:08)

This is why I think it’s ok for the left to riot and burn things down. And eventually to kill conservatives simply for their political ideology.