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Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination. -KJV

2 Timothy 3:2-4
King James Version
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

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Mar 25 2021 07:24am

Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 25 2021 08:04am)

https://um-insight.net/perspectives/has-%E2%80%9Chomosexual%E2%80%9D-always-been-in-the-bible/

Makes sense. In Greece and Rome bisexuality was a given.

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Mar 25 2021 07:52am

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Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination. -KJV

2 Timothy 3:2-4
King James Version
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

From the first page of that link:

Quote (German translation from an 1800s-era Bible)

So we went to Leviticus 18:22 and he’s translating it for me word for word. In the English where it says “Man shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination,” the German version says “Man shall not lie with young boys as he does with a woman, for it is an abomination.” I said, “What?! Are you sure?” He said, “Yes!” Then we went to Leviticus 20:13— same thing, “Young boys.” So we went to 1 Corinthians to see how they translated arsenokoitai (original Greek word) and instead of homosexuals it said, “Boy molesters will not inherit the kingdom of God.”

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Mar 25 2021 07:59am

Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 25 2021 06:52am)

From the first page of that link:

That is worse and more specific - homosexual + pedophilia, but Hebrew scripture or it's alignment back into hebrew would be the correct interpretation before the great bible or kjv.

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Mar 25 2021 08:11am

Quote (lodd222 @ Mar 25 2021 08:59am)

That is worse and more specific - homosexual + pedophilia, but Hebrew scripture or it's alignment back into hebrew would be the correct interpretation before the great bible or kjv.

It's not combining the two, though. That article specifically calls out pederasty to the exclusion of homosexuality.

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It turns out that the ancient world condoned and encouraged a system whereby young boys (8-12 years old) were coupled by older men. Ancient Greek documents show us how even parents utilized this abusive system to help their sons advance in society. So for most of history, most translations thought these verses were obviously referring the pederasty, not homosexuality!

https://www.historyextra.com/period/ancient-greece/pederasty-homosexuality-ancient-greece-boys-sparta-girls-plato-sappho-consent/

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Mar 25 2021 08:14am

Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 25 2021 07:11am)

It's not combining the two, though. That article specifically calls out pederasty to the exclusion of homosexuality.

https://www.historyextra.com/period/ancient-greece/pederasty-homosexuality-ancient-greece-boys-sparta-girls-plato-sappho-consent/

worldly documents are not an argument when it comes to scripture

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