seems animals don't handle it well either when their children come out as atheists

Not true at all. 60 hour work weeks are pretty standard for hard-working people. Elon Musk works 100+ hour work weeks and he's definitely doing some fulfilling work. A lot of my friends at Google are working 80 hour work weeks.

You know that opportunity cost is a real concept in valid economic theory?

People say over here that if you can make your job out of your hobby you should. And those people tend to work a lot. Plus from what I've seen the US doesn't gain much productivity from all those extra work hours. Afaik around 5-6 hours are used productively and the rest aren't.

But I'm pretty happy we have a work to live mentality. Labour is not the only way to create value in your life. You can spend time with loved ones, expand your horizons by traveling or arts, take up new skills, etc.

You have to be aware of balance my friend, I spent many years working 60-80 hours especially when i was my own boss sub contracting there was a visceral gloating in paying cash for a new truck and bringing it home. But there were a few years when I'd come home and kiss my kids on the head while they were sleeping then leave in the morning before they woke-up. I missed some quality growing time with my older children and damaged a relationship that will never be the same. Yes you have to take care of the family I'm not denying that I'm just saying don't lose something that you'll regret later in trying to gain more than what is necessary.

Wisdom^^^

...Yeah cause you should live your whole life enslaved to "faith" to get to "heaven" which has never proven in reality.....

Yes, but that's not what they did. You don't lose thirty dollars an hour by being on vacation. Its only an opportunity cost if you are losing money by not doing something else, which may apply to business travel but not in this case.



They are already at top rung, I'm talking about people who are lower and need to advance or change fields to do that. I work probably 60 hours total between research and school and work, but if I was doing that in a dead end job I would have little opportunity to improve myself to escape it.

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Those who can do, those who can't teach

I've been lucky, a lot of my lower liberal arts undergrad stuff was taught by retired adjuncts. I had some tenured professors and they were horrible and detached....they had TAs doing their work, who were just students who kissed alot of ass and did their job so that the teacher could do "research" lol.

We do things a little differently in my little school at the university. Of course you get some privileges when you get your own school to do things. I love doing concrete things...but without theory none of it is possible....Thundercock is only able to achieve such heights of success because of effective instructors along with his hard work, and because others locked themselves away from the world and studied serious things that most other people were too busy to care about, but benefit when a break through occurs and polio is cured.

Sure you do. You miss flights and have to pay exorbitant same-day hotel fees. Extra car rentals. You miss business appointments on return flights. A coworker of mine just came back from vacation, and his flight was 3 minutes late arriving at an airport for connection, and they didn't hold it. His wife spent the next 3 hours on the phone postponing appointments with clients over 2 days that she is a real-estate agent for. I guarantee there's an opportunity cost in that.