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Aug 13 2016 07:46pm
Quote (Skinned @ Aug 13 2016 04:15pm)
Affordable housing is one of the things lacking in this country. People keep making housing developments for the middle and upper classes downtown, nobody is building low income stuff.


Why would you build shit for people who don't have disposable income? That sounds like a good way to lose money.
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Aug 13 2016 08:02pm
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Why would you build shit for people who don't have disposable income? That sounds like a good way to lose money.


What the fuck are you talking about, Wal-Mart is yuge!
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Aug 13 2016 08:06pm
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What the fuck are you talking about, Wal-Mart is yuge!


What's wrong with Walmart? That's catered to the middle class.
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Aug 13 2016 08:24pm
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Why would you build shit for people who don't have disposable income? That sounds like a good way to lose money.


Skinned is trying to make some point about how new houses that are being built average 2500 sq ft while there's a huge demand for 1000 sq ft houses and not very much demand for 3000 sq ft houses. It's one of those weird things that's not well understood and we need at least 4 more 538 articles on it before we can really wrap our heads around it.
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Aug 13 2016 08:26pm
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What's wrong with Walmart? That's catered to the middle class.


Not really.
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Aug 13 2016 08:26pm
Quote (Skinned @ Aug 13 2016 06:15pm)
Affordable housing is one of the things lacking in this country. People keep making housing developments for the middle and upper classes downtown, nobody is building low income stuff.


Except for all those huge number of regulations that mandate developers must create affordable low income developments alongside big ones or else be subject to bigger tax penalties?
Forcing developers to create the affordable housing units won't protect you from economic bubbles when unregulated banks destroy the mortgage market
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Aug 13 2016 08:27pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 13 2016 12:35pm)
Affirmative action housing loans that collapsed within 10 years.


My data is like at least 4 years old and there's a decent chance that the 7 to 1 stat was a direct result of the bubble, but it doesn't change the fact that a bunch of people went out and built and bought a bunch of stuff that no one really both wanted and could afford. Isn't building stuff no one needs because the government incentivizes it like a hallmark of communism?
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Aug 13 2016 08:31pm
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My data is like at least 4 years old and there's a decent chance that the 7 to 1 stat was a direct result of the bubble, but it doesn't change the fact that a bunch of people went out and built and bought a bunch of stuff that no one really both wanted and could afford. Isn't building stuff no one needs because the government incentivizes it like a hallmark of communism?


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Aug 13 2016 08:44pm
Quote (jtf @ Aug 13 2016 06:24pm)
Skinned is trying to make some point about how new houses that are being built average 2500 sq ft while there's a huge demand for 1000 sq ft houses and not very much demand for 3000 sq ft houses. It's one of those weird things that's not well understood and we need at least 4 more 538 articles on it before we can really wrap our heads around it.


1000 feet is really fucking small and you can't raise a family in it.
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Aug 13 2016 08:47pm
Quote (jtf @ Aug 13 2016 10:27pm)
My data is like at least 4 years old and there's a decent chance that the 7 to 1 stat was a direct result of the bubble, but it doesn't change the fact that a bunch of people went out and built and bought a bunch of stuff that no one really both wanted and could afford. Isn't building stuff no one needs because the government incentivizes it like a hallmark of communism?


Capitalism does the same thing, shotgun approach.

The difference is the capitalist foots the bill, not the taxpayer.
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