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Oct 2 2022 08:43pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 2 2022 09:19pm)
Here is the actual criteria for the un refugee charter, not the one you made up.
“someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”
Are you saying that there is no chance that venezuelans are facing any of the above?


Of coarse not.
It is intentionally vague and non-specific.
Anyone, anywhere could find a way to fit that description.
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Oct 2 2022 08:45pm
I'll debate anybody on any topic right now. Who is ready to rumble?
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Oct 3 2022 12:24am
Quote (sirthom @ Oct 2 2022 09:43pm)
Of coarse not.
It is intentionally vague and non-specific.
Anyone, anywhere could find a way to fit that description.


I couldn't. White cis male has no fear of returning to the USA.

I get you're a snowflake but the average person knows what a well founded fear is.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 2 2022 09:10pm)
So to summarize.

The GOP illegally trafficed legal refugees out of state in a malicious attempt to harm the refugees and out sanctuary cities / states as actually hating immigrants.

and the result was that the immigrants were met with hospitality, transported to a place nearby that can take care of them, and given assistance to continue their refugee process.



Turns out this kind of thing happened before with the "reverse freedom rides" in the 60's with literally the same outcome.


Why don't conservatives ever learn?



Idk why I’m even responding to you, as I now believe you are factually incorrect on purpose to hold true to your tribal beliefs.

I feel the need to remind you these immigrants signed literal consent forms to be flown to Massachusetts.

This move provoked the locals to compare this move to, “throwing your trash around different neighborhoods” and immediately invoke the military to remove the people from their island. An island which at the time, and I brought receipts previously, had several times the amount of housing needed posted on air bnb alone, all the while claiming a “housing crisis”.

They did have the time to feed the Venezuelans cereal and hot dogs while putting them up in left wing slogan t-shirts for their photo ops and news recordings.


Holy shit guy this is almost worse than a plaguefear “but you are all racist so none of your information matters” post.

This post was edited by YeeHaw on Oct 3 2022 01:49am
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Oct 3 2022 06:30am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 3 2022 01:24am)
I couldn't. White cis male has no fear of returning to the USA.

I get you're a snowflake but the average person knows what a well founded fear is.


Meanwhile, your president is calling MAGA domestic terrorists.
After they passed all kinds of anti terrorist laws that was not intended for Americans, yet now is.
Is that not well founded enough for you?

BTW, no such thing as cis, those people are normal.
As in, everyone else is abnormal.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 2 2022 11:24pm)
I couldn't. White cis male has no fear of returning to the USA.

I get you're a snowflake but the average person knows what a well founded fear is.


snowden.....
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Oct 3 2022 08:03am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Oct 3 2022 02:32am)
Idk why I’m even responding to you, as I now believe you are factually incorrect on purpose to hold true to your tribal beliefs.

I feel the need to remind you these immigrants signed literal consent forms to be flown to Massachusetts.


Please link the forms then. I haven't seen anything about that
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Oct 3 2022 09:26am
Quote (YeeHaw @ Oct 3 2022 01:32am)
Idk why I’m even responding to you, as I now believe you are factually incorrect on purpose to hold true to your tribal beliefs.

I feel the need to remind you these immigrants signed literal consent forms to be flown to Massachusetts.

This move provoked the locals to compare this move to, “throwing your trash around different neighborhoods” and immediately invoke the military to remove the people from their island. An island which at the time, and I brought receipts previously, had several times the amount of housing needed posted on air bnb alone, all the while claiming a “housing crisis”.

They did have the time to feed the Venezuelans cereal and hot dogs while putting them up in left wing slogan t-shirts for their photo ops and news recordings.


Holy shit guy this is almost worse than a plaguefear “but you are all racist so none of your information matters” post.


Responding to intellectually dishonest users is self defeating. You will see this user complain when others make partisan remarks, all while doing exactly that in the following post. A democrat party lapdog in denial.

How astonishing is this whole situation. Truely a missed opportunity for woke flag carrying vessels to turn this situation around in their favor. But when push came to shove, it is as you mention, their colors are revealed. No comparatively miniscule amount of migrants are truly welcomed in their communities. Who could've thought they were virtue signaling all along. :rolleyes:
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Oct 3 2022 09:56am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 3 Oct 2022 04:19)
Here is the actual criteria for the un refugee charter, not the one you made up.
“someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.”
Are you saying that there is no chance that venezuelans are facing any of the above?


Article 31 of the UN refugee convention:

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The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article i, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1951_Refugee_Convention

What this says is essentially that only countries bordering directly on war zones have an obligation to tolerate the illegal entry of refugees; as soon as a refugee has entered the first so-called "safe third country", his refugee status no longer gives him a free pass when he tries to move on to greener pastures. In particular, those entering illegally from a safe third country can be prosecuted (in full accordance with the refugee convention) for their illegal entry. This, in turn, implies that they have broken their obligations under article 2 of the convention, namely that "Every refugee has duties to the country in which he finds himself, which require in particular that he conform to its laws and regulations [...]".

Since the United States are surrounded by countries in which the clauses of article 1 ("being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion") are not met, they have no obligation under international law to take in any refugees from Venezuela. Neither do Mexico or any of the other Central American countries.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 3 2022 09:57am
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Oct 3 2022 10:21am
Quote (WiziLiCe @ Oct 3 2022 08:26am)
Responding to intellectually dishonest users is self defeating. You will see this user complain when others make partisan remarks, all while doing exactly that in the following post. A democrat party lapdog in denial.

How astonishing is this whole situation. Truely a missed opportunity for woke flag carrying vessels to turn this situation around in their favor. But when push came to shove, it is as you mention, their colors are revealed. No comparatively miniscule amount of migrants are truly welcomed in their communities. Who could've thought they were virtue signaling all along. :rolleyes:


you mean, lying all along
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