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Mar 29 2022 11:18am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 29 2022 10:16am)
ftfy


He didn't make any points. He purposely misunderstood mine and said some bullshit nonsense. You leftoids pick apart completely irrelevant things and try to grab victory from the jaws of defeat for any possible reason.

On this issue, you lose, and I win. It doesn't matter what mental gymnastics you twist yourselves into.

Go home and lick your wounds, kiddo.

This post was edited by Nibthebarb on Mar 29 2022 11:18am
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Mar 29 2022 11:21am
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That's the only similarity? not that both were responses to nuclear threats? you realize situations dont need to be equivalent to be comparable, right? that's what a comparison is, it draws on similarities between two things to illustrate a point.

as to the War comment i dont know specifically what point you're trying to make.


Aww poor baby wants me to talk to him.

The comparison is irrelevant, there's far too many variables. Period, end of discussion on that one.

You weren't able to understand, and apparently properly read english. I said a war. Any war. You can't admit a war started under Biden's watch, and not Trump's. There, gave the baby his bottle.
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Mar 29 2022 11:26am
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Aww poor baby wants me to talk to him.

The comparison is irrelevant, there's far too many variables. Period, end of discussion on that one.

You weren't able to understand, and apparently properly read english. I said a war. Any war. You can't admit a war started under Biden's watch, and not Trump's. There, gave the baby his bottle.


2 presidents responded to a nuclear threat made by dictators and a brash way and the response was very different based on which party was in office. although the democrats are seemingly far more willing in media and in office to condemn biden than the GOP was to condemn Trump. totally not worthy of comparison at all, because of "variables" i asked you to define and you didn't.

i never refused to admit anything, i said a war didnt start under trump, then clarified who the current war was between (not the US and Russia).

not sure why you're so angry at being asked simple questions but if you need to tap out i get it.
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Mar 29 2022 11:32am
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2 presidents responded to a nuclear threat made by dictators and a brash way and the response was very different based on which party was in office. although the democrats are seemingly far more willing in media and in office to condemn biden than the GOP was to condemn Trump. totally not worthy of comparison at all, because of "variables" i asked you to define and you didn't.

i never refused to admit anything, i said a war didnt start under trump, then clarified who the current war was between (not the US and Russia).

not sure why you're so angry at being asked simple questions but if you need to tap out i get it.


"Tap out" dude, no one is tapping out in anything with you. Get over yourself. Sometimes, maybe your personality isn't very good and people don't want to engage with you.

The burden is on you to prove that ongoing general tensions in Korea vs the Ukrainian Civil War and specific concerns in regards to NATO/crimea/donbass are precise comparisons worthy of being used in an argument. No one took Kim's threats nearly as specifically and seriously (general bluster) as Putin's very specific, and objectively speaking, far more legitimate (though not legitimate enough IMO) and therefore warranting a categorically different response. Putin and Kim may both be dictators, but Putin clearly has his mental faculties while Kim is a fat little dumbass who is allowed to play king because he is propped up as a vassal bulwark state against the Western sphere of influence. Russia isn't a vassal state, it is a regional great power.

Do you want even more of my attention? I'm flattered, but the further this extremely irrelevant conversation goes, the further it distracts from how much your guy is struggling and is politically doomed. This is what you want, to distract from the L that you need to take.

And then you finish with "u mad" no. No, kid. You could say justifiably repulsed by your words.

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Mar 29 2022 11:35am
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"Tap out" dude, no one is tapping out in anything with you. Get over yourself. Sometimes, maybe your personality just sucks and people don't want to engage with you.

The burden is on you to prove that ongoing general tensions in Korea vs the Ukrainian Civil War and specific concerns in regards to NATO/crimea/donbass are precise comparisons worthy of being used in an argument. No one took Kim's threats nearly as specifically and seriously (general bluster) as Putin's very specific, and objectively speaking, far more legitimate (though not legitimate enough IMO) and therefore warranting a categorically different response. Putin and Kim may both be dictators, but Putin clearly has his mental faculties while Kim is a fat little dumbass who is allowed to play king because he is propped up as a vassal bulwark state against the Western sphere of influence. Russia isn't a vassal state, it is a regional great power.

Do you want even more of my attention? I'm flattered, but the further this extremely irrelevant conversation goes, the further it distracts from how much your guy is struggling and is politically doomed. This is what you want, to distract from the L that you need to take.

And then you finish with "u mad" no. No, kid. You could say justifiably repulsed by your words.


when did i say it was a precise comparison? i just made a post for a small general point lol. broad comparisons exist too you realize? maybe you don't.

maybe you missed the post about me not being a Biden supporter or democrat, because honestly that would explain these posts lol. sorry i made you puke but thanks for admitting im physically having an affect on you.

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Mar 29 2022 11:37am
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when did i say it was a precise comparison? i just made a post for a small general point lol. broad comparisons exist too you realize? maybe you don't.

maybe you missed the post about me not being a Biden supporter or democrat, because honestly that would explain these posts lol.


It doesn't matter you say you are. You are trying to lighten the blow on Biden for his many, many gaffes. If you're not a Biden supporter, you act like a beaten girlfriend who stays with her abusive boyfriend and you're currently rubbing a raw steak on your black eye. Take a hint and leave him. Biden sucks.
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Mar 29 2022 11:42am
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It doesn't matter you say you are. You are trying to lighten the blow on Biden for his many, many gaffes. If you're not a Biden supporter, you act like a beaten girlfriend who stays with her abusive boyfriend and you're currently rubbing a raw steak on your black eye. Take a hint and leave him. Biden sucks.


i did the same thing when Trump was in office because the public reaction by the opposition party rarely fits what it should be, this is a political subforum. 4 years ago Fender was where you are today calling me a Trump apologist and offered the same advice you are.

but by all means you can keep telling me what i am if it makes you feel better. i wear an ironic communist sig just for these type of reactions from newcomers in pard, always makes me chuckle.
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Mar 29 2022 12:09pm
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Is the news cycle so slow that we have to make a big deal about this? I expect this type of fearmongering from AOC and jsp posters, not from distinguished individuals like Baker. I don't think Biden said anything controversial (Putin SHOULDN'T remain in power) and you have to do some backbreaking twists to claim that "it's an official change in policy." Biden has been extremely dovish when it comes to confronting Russia and America doesn't have the resources or political capital to force regime change. I'm really surprised that this nonsense came from Baker because his analysis is laughable.
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Mar 29 2022 12:29pm
Quote (thundercock @ Mar 29 2022 01:09pm)
Is the news cycle so slow that we have to make a big deal about this? I expect this type of fearmongering from AOC and jsp posters, not from distinguished individuals like Baker. I don't think Biden said anything controversial (Putin SHOULDN'T remain in power) and you have to do some backbreaking twists to claim that "it's an official change in policy." Biden has been extremely dovish when it comes to confronting Russia and America doesn't have the resources or political capital to force regime change. I'm really surprised that this nonsense came from Baker because his analysis is laughable.


The only thing it signals, which anyone with a brain knew already, is that post-ukraine sanctions and economic pressure on Putin/Russia may persist in an attempt to get Russians to oust Putin without our intervention.

but the idea that "putin shouldnt be in charge" is a hot take in 2022 is absurd, its been common knowledge of all western leaders for decades. they just havent done shit about it.
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Quote (GarryGarry @ Mar 26 2022 11:52pm)
needs to be done but also gonna suck if Putin uses nukes :(


It's allready certain - putin can't use the Nukes: the support within the highest ranks for Putin is dropping low. He alone cannot push the red button - as I heard there are at 5 guys with top clearance required to give an OK. this lowlife sticks to some sick, twisted visions of a mighty empire as it was back in the days for the sake of what? What is it that makes the Russians as a society be so for this sensless war?
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