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Dec 23 2020 01:03pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 23 2020 01:01pm)
It's not a formal definition but 9/10 understand what the reference is pertaining to. Seems like you're the only one that missed the boat or like I said are just expanding the definition to fit in people you don't like.

It's specifically referencing politicians, predominantly in Washington DC.


Yeah I'm expanding the definition by using Trump's own words to define what the swamp is.

In reality it's whatever the person speaking doesn't like. It never had a real meaning. It's just like "socialism", another buzz word you can mold to whatever you want it to mean.
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Yeah I'm expanding the definition by using Trump's own words to define what the swamp is.

In reality it's whatever the person speaking doesn't like. It never had a real meaning. It's just like "socialism", another buzz word you can mold to whatever you want it to mean.


If you purchase a property that has water on it, you're in charge of how that water operates. In the case of a President, they've taken control of the Executive branch of the government. Everything from the Federal board of education to the EPA to the State Department, etc. makes up that "water".

When your property has a wonderful shining lake with (relatively) clean water and teeming life, things tend to thrive and be quite beautiful. When it turns into a brackish swamp, things tend to flood, life dies, and everything is choked out by rot.

"Draining the Swamp" from a Presidential sense, has stood for rooting out all the portions of the executive bureaucracy that has choked everything out and caused the rot.

Any reference to representatives, senators, etc. being "The Swamp" is completely unrelated to the Executive Branch. Those are State level swamps, which have to be handled at the state level. The most any President can ever do is point out the state swamps and encourage voters in those states to resolve them.

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didn't read lol
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Dec 23 2020 01:30pm
TIL: "The Swamp" is a narrowly tailored term meant to exclude anyone I like from inclusion in its scope.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 23 Dec 2020 14:12)
didn't read lol


same lmao
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Dec 23 2020 01:53pm
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TIL: "The Swamp" is a narrowly tailored term meant to exclude anyone I like from inclusion in its scope.



Or how most of us have understood the term in its current context.

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Dec 23 2020 01:54pm
Just read the new bill would take 43 pages per minute to read before they had to vote on it.
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Or how most of us have understood the term in its current context.


Except you have to exclude Trump's own words to get your understanding in the "current context".

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Except you have to exclude Trump's own words to get your understanding in the "current context".


Right, so Trump altered the current context to include himself and people like him in the definition. Makes sense.
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Right, so Trump altered the current context to include himself and people like him in the definition. Makes sense.


And here's where you decide to cherry pick when you take him seriously or not.

Trump has, from the beginning, called out things and then done them himself, so it wouldn't be surprising if he was doing that here. It's totally within his expected behavior
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