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Im surprised they havent pushed harder on COVID

Trump just needs to come out and say if Biden wins you will be jobless, homeless, and wearing a mask forever
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Aug 26 2020 06:31am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 26 2020 08:00am)
But the wording suggests that he postulates these things to be unchangeable, rather than just super unlikely to change, due to voting.

And I really dont see how the things animating the Republican base should be fundamentally unchangeable via voting. Almost all of their policy goals, perhaps with the exception of bringing back outsourced jobs in large numbers, could quite clearly be achieved if only there were large enough Republican majorities, and if Republican elected officials actually wanted to carry out the priorities of the base. (Instead of what they've done for the past few decades, namely converting the base's political energy fueled by anger over abortion, immigration or political correctness into Wall Street tax cuts and foreign wars...)


There's many things you can point to. Cancel culture, SJWs on college campuses, media bias, cultural leftism, darkies disrespecting the flag, etc etc. These are the issues that get conservatives fired up... much more so than tax cuts or tariffs.
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There's many things you can point to. Cancel culture, SJWs on college campuses, media bias, cultural leftism, darkies disrespecting the flag, etc etc. These are the issues that get conservatives fired up... much more so than tax cuts or tariffs.


Yes, but that's not the point. The point is the notion that those things are out of reach for political action, that they cannot be affected by EOs coming from the WH or laws coming out of Congress.
And that's just not true. Conservative priorities are still amendable by politics, they have just failed (so far) to win the necessary majorities for it. (And been betrayed by GOP officials who fought for corporate interests more so than the interests of their base.)
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Quote (IceMage @ Aug 26 2020 08:31am)
There's many things you can point to. Cancel culture, SJWs on college campuses, media bias, cultural leftism, darkies disrespecting the flag, etc etc. These are the issues that get conservatives fired up... much more so than tax cuts or tariffs.


He's wrong, though. The Obama administration drove school and university policy sharply left on sexual assault and school discipline in ways that had a direct, tangible impact on both students and how schools operate. The Trump administration has begun unwinding those policy changes. Control over institutions can have a long-lasting impact, and official support helps set the public narrative, see Obama and his reaction to Michael Brown assaulting a police officer.

In 2012 Romney had to pretend that CNN was a neutral arbitrator as they actively undermined his election prospects. The general public now acknowledges that institutions like CNN are driven by crippling bias, and that's in no small part due to the presidential platform from which Trump has called them out.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 26 2020 08:54am)
Yes, but that's not the point. The point is the notion that those things are out of reach for political action, that they cannot be affected by EOs coming from the WH or laws coming out of Congress.
And that's just not true. Conservative priorities are still amendable by politics, they have just failed (so far) to win the necessary majorities for it. (And been betrayed by GOP officials who fought for corporate interests more so than the interests of their base.)


You've lost me.

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He's wrong, though. The Obama administration drove school and university policy sharply left on sexual assault and school discipline in ways that had a direct, tangible impact on both students and how schools operate. The Trump administration has begun unwinding those policy changes. Control over institutions can have a long-lasting impact, and official support helps set the public narrative, see Obama and his reaction to Michael Brown assaulting a police officer.

In 2012 Romney had to pretend that CNN was a neutral arbitrator as they actively undermined his election prospects. The general public now acknowledges that institutions like CNN are driven by crippling bias, and that's in no small part due to the presidential platform from which Trump has called them out.


What changes were made by Obama, and how do they affect any of the issues I mentioned? Are you claiming that had those changes not happened, the situations on the ground would be substantially different? Many of these universities have SJW administrators who are on board with the views of students. Control of institutions matter, but politicians don't control universities.

The bully pulpit matters at least in theory, but what evidence is there that it actually can help(from your perspective) a situation? What items that I listed have gotten better since Trump got elected? Has media bias gotten less under Trump? Do you think Fox News viewers pre-2015 didn't view CNN as biased? Are fewer players kneeling than 2 years ago?

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Aug 26 2020 07:25am
DNC - Orange man bad, America’s a POS

RNC - America’s great

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DNC - Orange man bad, America’s a POS

RNC - America’s great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baav0W7KA6s


Lol! The incumbent's party portrays the country as great, while the out-party says it's in disarray and needs change - more news at 10.
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He's wrong, though. The Obama administration drove school and university policy sharply left on sexual assault and school discipline in ways that had a direct, tangible impact on both students and how schools operate. The Trump administration has begun unwinding those policy changes. Control over institutions can have a long-lasting impact, and official support helps set the public narrative, see Obama and his reaction to Michael Brown assaulting a police officer.

In 2012 Romney had to pretend that CNN was a neutral arbitrator as they actively undermined his election prospects. The general public now acknowledges that institutions like CNN are driven by crippling bias, and that's in no small part due to the presidential platform from which Trump has called them out.

yep. it got so bad Romney got flustered and bamboozled himself unlike Trump who called them out for what they are.

remember in the 2nd debate Romney lost it when he decided it was a good idea to debate the moderator over some mundane issue instead of Obama! lol Obama could barely hold it in he was grinning from ear to ear



here’s the kicker, Romney was correct but acted so wishy-washy about it so he looked weak. The moderator even admitted Romney was correct later on but the damage had been done

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/16/cnns_candy_crowley_romney_was_actually_right_on_libya.html

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Aug 26 2020 08:41am
All you gotta do is point guns at your black neighbors to speak at the RNC now lol. What a party.
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All you gotta do is point guns at your black neighbors to speak at the RNC now lol. What a party.


Those were not their neighbors, they were a mob who had broken into the gated community by force.
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