Quote (thesnipa @ 5 Feb 2020 08:48)

I think Bloomberg has the best chance vs Trump. there's just not enough data for msm to even talk about this.

also, what you found rhetorically brilliant about Kamala most people found precanned, rehearsed, and pandering. her tough on trump act wasnt that well recieved, especially when Tulsi took it to her and it proved she couldnt handle back and forth, just prewritten one liners. even her "attack" on Warren for not supporting a Trump Twitter ban showed about how desperate she was and devoid of policy. i started off liking her, but then it faded quickly. i dont think she could have handled trump on stage unless he made a big oopsie and referenced her blackness or womanhood.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 5 2020 10:24am)

I agree with the bolded part, but still dont think Bloomberg can deliver that.
A billionaire from NYC who made his fortunes with a financial services company and who's literally buying his place in the primaries with outrageous spending will never be liked or accepted by the Bernie and Warren supporters. Similarly, an old white dude whose suit looks as if it costs more than the average citizen earns in a year will not appeal to working-class voters nor blacks or latinos, and his history with stop and frisk policies and being a Republican as mayor of New York wont help endear him with minority voters either.

Simply put, I just dont think that there's a strong enough constituency/base for someone like him. At least not in the Democratic primaries. To win them, he will have to pander either to the economically far-left or to the sjw-far-left. And once he does that, his appeal with conservative-leaning voters in the middle who want a return to normalcy will be diminished. Also... Bloomberg is 5'6" or something like that. He'd look like a total wimp next to Trump on the debate stage. Isnt there this insane statistic that 80+% of the presidential races in American history were won by the taller candidate?



The logic of Bloomberg's candidacy hinges on two big assumptions: 1.: there is a large enough segment of the population willing to break with Trump if only the Democrats nominate a normal/reasonable/boring/non-socialjusticewarrior-y enough candidate. 2.: that the far-left people wont stay home or vote for third party candidates like they did in 2016, no matter how much they dislike the Democratic nominee. I personally think that both assumptions dont hold to a large enough degree. If the race becomes Bloomberg vs Trump, the less engaged millenials and minorities will just tune out, as will many working-class voters who arent into Trump.



Imho, the ideal candidate to beat Trump would be someone like Biden who is not Biden. XD
Someone who's center-left, not strong into the sjw- and socialism-stuff, but who also has appeal with working-class voters and minorities, and who doesnt reek of plutocracy. If Biden wasnt a senile fossil and a gaffe-machine, he'd be the ideal candidate to beat Trump.

Quote (excellence @ 5 Feb 2020 11:00)

https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/05/liz-warren-iowa-caucus-pocahontas/
Liz Warren Finishes In 5th Place In Pocahontas County, Iowa

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Quote (excellence @ 5 Feb 2020 20:56)

https://nypost.com/2020/02/05/dnc-taking-over-accounting-results-in-iowa-after-botched-caucus-report/
Fed up with the dithering of Iowa party officials, the Democratic National Committee is “taking over” the accounting of results from Monday’s botched caucus count as state party operatives remain unable to provide a timeline for releasing the remainder of the tally, according to a report.

The DNC has been “actively engaging in calling the leaders of each [caucus] precinct in order to verify the results,” ABC News reported.

what the hell LOL

Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 5 2020 08:34am)

Trump came in with a big business looking suit, his house literally has gold toilet seats, and he swept up with working class people. the bit about Bloomberg being too ritzy to get working class people just doesnt hold up.

in 2016 bernie bros voted 3rd party or stayed home because they thought HRC had it in the bag. now they know better, and would 100% prefer Bloomberg to Trump.

it's a tale of two cities here. one side is Bloombergs ability to not be objectionable to moderates. the other is the lack of choice far left dems have.

and the part not brought up it Bloomberg's long history of dealing with Trump, he can reference unpaid contractors and broken building codes, etc.

Biden was the only one who could beat Trump, but he's falling apart at the seams. Mayor Pete is offbrand center left and I dont think he'll do well in the long run against Trump.