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Nov 29 2019 06:10pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 29 2019 07:04pm)
I’m going to make the following claim:

At no point in the history of any our lives will an ectopic pregnancy be mandated to be turned into a traditional pregnancy. Even if an experimental option one day becomes available.

Don’t worry about the why, this is my claim. will bet any of u my retirement on it for portion of your. No Roths allowed. Will offer odds too. if anyone interested lmk and we can get lawyers to draft a document for all the interested zealots




I do understand your point. But I think the all inclusiveness of this bill is just so we won't have to make another bill when transplant becomes possible. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but maybe 60 years from now.
Or maybe some doc with his license revoked will make a drug that can "cause" an ectopic pregnancy. I dunno some vaso-constrictor that only works on fallopian tubes.

Like I said before, I think the "intent" here is to outlaw abortions, not to crucify doctors.
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Nov 29 2019 07:12pm
Quote (Bazi @ Nov 29 2019 06:36pm)
You realize an ectopic pregnancy is not a subjective result but based on objective imaging ?



Why are you trying to legislate for procedures that don’t exist and are not standard of care at this time?


Why not propose some laws on brain transplants too


By those two standards I would be against the bill.
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Nov 29 2019 08:10pm
Ya I mean my point is not that this is a dr bashing bill

My point is that u should not legislate based off science fiction, either party
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Nov 30 2019 12:37am
Quote (Skinned @ 29 Nov 2019 19:35)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/29/ohio-extreme-abortion-bill-reimplant-ectopic-pregnancy

Example of GOP authoritarianism. Doctors will go to jail if they don't do impossible procedures that the government believes in.


ohio seems to be america's saudi-arabia. first they introduce a bill that lets students answer questions based on religious beliefs rather than science, and now they seem to let lawmakers do the same with abortion. christian fundamentalists at work...

This post was edited by fender on Nov 30 2019 01:01am
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Nov 30 2019 09:32am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 29 2019 06:14pm)
My humble opinion:

Republicans are wrong on "religious cultural issues" like abortion and gay marriage, but they are totally right on "post-religious cultural issues" like immigration, political correctness and transgenderism.

https://i.imgur.com/KbMY1xm.gif


Transgenderism is part of that first category and not part of second. Opposition is based on gender roles being some sort of natural law or non socially constructed reality. Being bigoted against transgenderism is like being racist or homophobic in other ways. Difference is only time.


Quote (fender @ Nov 30 2019 01:37am)
ohio seems to be america's saudi-arabia. first they introduce a bill that lets students answer questions based on religious beliefs rather than science, and now they seem to let lawmakers do the same with abortion. christian fundamentalists at work...


Yeah we're moving backward. I just heard about the religous belief = fact law.

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Nov 30 2019 09:35am
When in doubt, double down on the dumb.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Nov 30 2019 10:35am)
When in doubt, double down on the dumb.


They will cling to their guns and religion someone said.
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Nov 30 2019 02:13pm
Quote (Skinned @ 30 Nov 2019 16:32)
Transgenderism is part of that first category and not part of second. Opposition is based on gender roles being some sort of natural law or non socially constructed reality. Being bigoted against transgenderism is like being racist or homophobic in other ways. Difference is only time.


Opposition to granting people special rights and privileges based on arbitrary, made up gender identities can, but does not have to, come from relgious or 'natural law' type of arguments.
Neither does opposition to biological males entering female sports contests and destroying the biologically female competition. Nor does opposition to persons with a penis having access to female locker rooms or toilets.
One really doesnt have to be a religious nutjob to reject these things. :rolleyes:


Quote (Skinned @ 30 Nov 2019 16:36)
They will cling to their guns and religion someone said.


... and then, his presidency was legislatively ended by a landslide loss in the 2010 midterm election, followed by a man who was onstentatiously running on being the antithesis to him was elected to become his successor.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 30 2019 02:15pm
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Nov 30 2019 02:23pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 30 Nov 2019 15:13)
Opposition to granting people special rights and privileges based on arbitrary, made up gender identities can, but does not have to, come from relgious or 'natural law' type of arguments.
Neither does opposition to biological males entering female sports contests and destroying the biologically female competition. Nor does opposition to persons with a penis having access to female locker rooms or toilets.
One really doesnt have to be a religious nutjob to reject these things. :rolleyes:




... and then, his presidency was legislatively ended by a landslide loss in the 2010 midterm election, followed by a man who was onstentatiously running on being the antithesis to him was elected to become his successor.

“that was due to racism though” -skinned
“also im unironically voting for a pale pasty privileged lefty who is the OG birther and the “black superpredator” crime bill pusher” -skinned
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 29 2019 03:26pm)
Upwards of 60% of them are in some states


false
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