Oh, I cannot doubt ? Why that ? Who is that magnificiant authority telling me I should accept everything ? Oh right, it's the same people that have made war everytime, everywhere, and since they exist as a country.

Doubting is sometimes bad, and can lead you to think earth is a prison controled by reptilians from dark side of the Moon or something like that, but never doubting is like worse. And that's exactly what some of the elites (not all) wants you to do.

"We measure the intelligence of an individual to the amount of uncertainty that he is able to bear" E. Kant



Sure nobody ever crashed his plane trying a similar move .. Let me doubt again about this affirmation sir!

This post was edited by Melatonina on Sep 17 2018 12:18pm

im telling you what you can and can't bring into doubt logically, for the purposes of a debate.

following your definition for "doubt" it's perfectly fine for card sultan to "doubt" the shape of the earth.

you're going to need more than youtube experiments, face validity, and fear of authority to prove a plane can't fly at the height you think it did on that day at the elevation it did on that day.

We know the simulators work well to predict flight abilities of planes. Why do they fail in this specific instance?

You just sound like a creationist right now. Accept science when it builds your car but not when it says a plane can perform the relevant maneuver.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 17 2018 12:23pm

Especially when an authority in the subject says it (an airline check pilot).

"We know" I already know I have nothing interesting to hear from such a small mind full of certitudes.
He doesnt even know anything better than myself. He just gonna believe what he got told because it feel safier for him. I dont talk to fragile minds who can't even think for themselves. goodbye

Oh and wtf

I am Creationist bro ?
This guy has just boxes in his binary mind for every specific "kind of" people he meets. Well defined boxes that suits his boxy mind.
lmao
csb

This post was edited by Melatonina on Sep 17 2018 12:45pm

Really? I worked in the military and commercial aviation fields for a decade. I've worked on probably 100+ Boeing 757s, so I'm not just some rand "believing what I got told". Aviation is a field I have a lot of expertise in.

GTFO with your dodging BS.

Melatonina, what exactly is so unbelievable about an aircraft descending 3600 feet and turning 270 degrees in one minute? Think about it. An aircraft travelling 300 mph moves 5 miles horizontally in 60 seconds. That's 26400 feet. So if this maneuver were in a straight line, the angle pointing down is a measly 7.8 degrees. With left or right rudder applied, it just means it also happens while curving. To turn 270 degrees in that same minute, it means the aircraft has to turn at a rate of 4.5 degrees per second. So to complete a simple 45 degree turn would take 10 seconds. A 90 degree turn would take 20 seconds. Hold your arm straight out in front of you and start slowly turning. You realize that making your first 90 degrees (a right angle front front facing) is actually a pretty lazy pace, not the result of some superhuman piloting skill.

My messager was not for you but for him. I use 3rd person because using with him "you" would give him too much importance.



It's crazy. Its so believable and easy that nobody is able to show it for real lmao

I see two types of conspiracy theory :

1) Thoses that does not even need to be proven stupid by authorities. Exemple you will never see an astronaut from ISS taking his time to demonstrate earth is spherical. No one would downgrade his own level to such absurdity.
2) Thoses that triggers so many people that authorities are desperately trying (relayed by mass medias) to convince everyone they're not lying on something.

In cat.1 I guess you can put 98% of conspiracy from internet into it : fleat earth / reptilians / global warming is propaganda / chemtrails / free energy tesla / crop circles / chupacabras / loch ness / giants / darwin is wrong / ancients pyramid technology / aliens / illuminatis etc.
Only a marginal part of people actually believe thoses things. Well at least I rarely meet such people in real life. Maybe it's different in america haha.

In cat.2 You have all the rest that still aren't being well explained. 11/09, falseflag operations, politics stinky things, etc.

Nuancing things is important which I never see with binary minds.
If someone tells me illuminatis and FM are controling everything in our society, I will laugh at him.
If someone tells me the contrary, I will laugh at him aswell. I think the truth is between thoses lines.
Now afk some lichess training if anyone wanna challenge me im out of practice lol

Nobody has shown it because it's so unremarkable that there's no need.

Why would they spend thousands of dollars for a maneuver we already know is easy to perform?

In this instant, he is trying to tell me 11/09 should be in cat.1 because nobody waste his time proving it was a real Mohammed-made.

That also explains why he has replied twenty times in this topic, and why nobody at all is trying hard to convince the masses, telling the same story, without considering all scientits opinions, until it is accepted.

I understand that science is not mandatory to believe some words for him, but he should know that I have really no intention to care about his opinion anymore. I know imbeciles always prevails in "democracy".

This post was edited by Melatonina on Sep 18 2018 08:08am