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Mar 26 2016 05:46am
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 26 2016 07:41am)
Implying dirty bombs are dangerous?

Oh and fissile material and waste is already pretty much the most watched and guarded commodity on the planet.

For most of the attacks so far bombs were made using readily available materials (TATP made from Acetone and H2O2, nails, glass, metal) and not military grade materials. Terrorists do not have the chemical expertise nor the facilities to safely guard and manipulate radioactive material until use.

I definitely agree that terrorist attacks are not something we should be afraid of in Europe, but I am a little bit nonetheless. I mean, just yesterday whilst traveling to my parents I had to hop trains in Arnhem and there were quite a few military police armed with MP5's and sniffer dogs. I feel safe knowing that they are there, but less safe because they have to be there in the first place.


...you probably missed the part where I mentioned the black market . It is there and efforts are being made to acquire some by militant Islam.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 25 2016 11:00pm)
Can you explain the bolded further? I don't see how an ISIS sponsored attack takes the spotlight OFF of ISIS.


They hope that escalating tensions in Europe (alongside long-term demographic changes) devolve into low-level street warfare. With widespread unrest in Europe, it will be challenging for European nations to find the political will to embark on campaigns abroad.

Middle Eastern dictators deal with terrorism with repression. European nations are unlikely to do that to the same extent. It will be incredibly difficult to eliminate safe havens when polarization begins to draw other disaffected Muslims into the fight. The rise of far-right nationalist parties is beneficial in a lot of ways to ISIS's long-term goals.
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Mar 26 2016 07:31pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 24 Mar 2016 14:24)
...there is new evidence that the Brussels bombers had been planning to attack a nuclear power plant .



Seen nothing about this.

Source?

Quote (balrog66 @ 26 Mar 2016 13:41)
Implying dirty bombs are dangerous?

Oh and fissile material and waste is already pretty much the most watched and guarded commodity on the planet.

For most of the attacks so far bombs were made using readily available materials (TATP made from Acetone and H2O2, nails, glass, metal) and not military grade materials. Terrorists do not have the chemical expertise nor the facilities to safely guard and manipulate radioactive material until use.

I definitely agree that terrorist attacks are not something we should be afraid of in Europe, but I am a little bit nonetheless. I mean, just yesterday whilst traveling to my parents I had to hop trains in Arnhem and there were quite a few military police armed with MP5's and sniffer dogs. I feel safe knowing that they are there, but less safe because they have to be there in the first place.


I don't like the military parading around in my streets or trainstations.
Fairly sure it accomplishes nothing.

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Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 26 2016 09:31pm)
Seen nothing about this.

Source?


...every single news service out there ;)


Pop this into google - brussels bombers nuclear reactor
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 27 Mar 2016 03:37)
...every single news service out there ;)


Pop this into google - brussels bombers nuclear reactor



A (admittedly short) search on google tells me this was reported by La Derniere Heure (and copied by other newspapers) after it was revealed that after a raid, the El Bakraoui brothers had footage of the coming and goings of the director of the nuclear research program. It is suspected that they planted the camera that recorded his goings.

From this it is inferred that they may have planned an attack on a nuclear plant.

Stating this as fact is (at the moment) premature.

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Mar 26 2016 07:49pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 26 2016 09:47pm)
A (admittedly short) search on google tells me this was reported by La Derniere Heure (and copied by other newspapers) after it was revealed that after a raid of the El Bakraoui brothers had footage of the coming and goings of the director of the nuclear research program. It is suspected that they planted the camera that recorded his goings.

From this it is inferred that they may have planned an attack on a nuclear plant.

Stating this as fact is (at the moment) premature.


...any actual intelligence gathered is not going to be made public , at least for now .
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 27 Mar 2016 03:49)
...any actual intelligence gathered is not going to be made public , at least for now .



Which means you also don't know for sure.

I'm not saying that they didn't plan this, but let's not jump to conclusions.

Fear of all possible threats is not what we need right now.

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Mar 26 2016 07:56pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ Mar 26 2016 09:52pm)
Which means you also don't know for sure.

I'm not saying that they didn't plan this, but let's not jump to conclusions.

Fear of all possible threats is not what we need right now.


...always with the fear . What you need is awareness and if the totality of the evidence suggests they had their sights set on attacking a reactor you guys had best step up your security at nuclear plants .
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Mar 26 2016 08:06pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 26 Mar 2016 18:20)
... The rise of far-right nationalist parties is beneficial in a lot of ways to ISIS's long-term goals.


and vice versa
don't forget that far-right terrorism claims more lives in western countries than that of radical islamists
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 27 Mar 2016 03:56)
What you need is awareness and if the totality of the evidence suggests they had their sights set on attacking a reactor you guys had best step up your security at nuclear plants .


I don't disagree with this.

And I do think in general our nuclear plants could do with a bit of hightened security.

But I really do believe that it's not in our best interest to speculate on all possible threats.

Of course I don't mean that we can't act pro-actively, but taking measures to stifle any and all possible attacks would deteriorate our quality of life in such ways that it doesn't seem worth it. This is what I think the endgoals of the terrorists are, to influence us in such a way that we change our view on and our ways of life.

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