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Jan 23 2015 10:47am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 23 Jan 2015 15:41)
...you claim to be non-violent , not wishing to see anyone get hurt but you continue to suck up to the poster who espouses killing Christians on a regular basis , a poster who has expressed more than once a desire to do the killing himself . What the hell is wrong with you ?


I espouse killing Christians on a regular basis?

You're talking bullshit. Give me an example please.
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Jan 23 2015 10:49am
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It's hard to argue with the points I've made

hohoho, strawmen and bold assertions backed up by nothing but your odd opinions? hard to argue against that indeed! writing much doesn't mean that it holds any substance, and bold claims would require like... some research or something to back them up.
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Jan 23 2015 10:52am
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hohoho, strawmen and bold assertions backed up by nothing but your odd opinions? hard to argue against that indeed! writing much doesn't mean that it holds any substance, and bold claims would require like... some research or something to back them up.


Coming in the next thread. In the meanwhile you could look up religious trauma syndrome.

But feel free to tell me how it isn't abuse to convince a child that they are inherently bad, tell them in detail about the grisly torture and gruesome death of a man and then tell them they are responsible for it. Not to mention having depictions of this terrible torture everywhere in order to constantly remind them of the horror and guilt.

Also I don't think strawmen means what you think it means...

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Jan 23 2015 11:04am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jan 23 2015 11:37am)
...and like most of your posts without any real thought behind them .


better to not put a whole lot of thought into something and still be right rather than over think things and still be dead wrong which is pretty common with you

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Jan 14 2015 09:35pm)
...follow the lighting as he walks ...he is spotlighted by whoever is doing the recording...not something you'll see during a church preaching .

...the total lack of response from the " congregation " is also a dead give-away .


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Jan 23 2015 11:15am
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better to not put a whole lot of thought into something and still be right rather than over think things and still be dead wrong which is pretty common with you


Bullshit. Widow is never wrong. Show me one post where he has admitted to being wrong and I'll believe you.
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Jan 23 2015 11:17am
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tell them in detail about the grisly torture and gruesome death of a man and then tell them they are responsible for it. Not to mention having depictions of this terrible torture everywhere in order to constantly remind them of the horror and guilt.

hmmh... the village i grew up in was kind of heavily religious at times in the first years of school and some pre-school stuff + there was the compulsory religious education that we have
the only things i can remember are me making a crocodile-figure into a Noah's ark illustration (and thinking that it's stupid), prayers before food and some funky-ass hymns (one's about Saint Lucy, the other one about how God accepts everyone, the third about how great it is that Jesus is alive). doesn't really have to do with torture, does it?
now as per my mates that grew up in religious households - well - not much torture-stuff there either.

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Also I don't think strawmen means what you think it means...

true enough. you're more of a Don Quijote-type, what with the imaginary version of religion and religious folks and all.

ain't your main beef with religion the fact that most religious folks don't really look kindly to upraising their children to become the next marquis De Sade?

boohoo socialisation happens :cry:

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hmmh... the village i grew up in was kind of heavily religious at times in the first years of school and some pre-school stuff + there was the compulsory religious education that we have
the only things i can remember are me making a crocodile-figure into a Noah's ark illustration (and thinking that it's stupid), prayers before food and some funky-ass hymns (one's about Saint Lucy, the other one about how God accepts everyone, the third about how great it is that Jesus is alive). doesn't really have to do with torture, does it?
now as per my mates that grew up in religious households - well - not much torture-stuff there either.


true enough. you're more of a Don Quijote-type, what with the imaginary version of religion and religious folks and all.

ain't your main beef with religion the fact that most religious folks don't really look kindly to upraising their children to become the next marquis De Sade?

boohoo socialisation happens :cry:


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Childhood indoctrination into authoritarian, guilt based religions


Right there in the op. If that's not your religion then guess what? N/A

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Jan 23 2015 11:54am
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 23 2015 08:50pm)
Right there in the op. If that's not your religion then guess what? N/A

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what? didn't you claim that Christianity is a guilt based religion?
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 21 2015 06:44pm)
A lot of this will focus on Christian beliefs as those are the ones I know the most about but they also apply to similar authoritarian, guilt based religions such as Judaism, Islam and even a large majority of the non Judeo-Christian belief systems.
here.

then...
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 21 2015 06:44pm)
You may have noted, on these boards, my distaste for religion. A lot of you have said things like 'Religion does good things too.' or 'Not all people who are religious do bad things, it's just a fringe minority'.
Well - in this multi-part series of threads I will attempt to explain the insidious ways in which religion causes a huge amount of people to abuse themselves and their friends, family and children and demonstrate the harm caused by their actions and beliefs to themselves, others and society as a whole. Not just a few 'fringe members' but the inherent properties and ideas contained within religions and the common themes that run through them that cause people to commit this abuse when they otherwise may very well not.

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Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ Jan 23 2015 08:56pm)
what religion does to people -> follow God's orders and not end up in hell
Not the qu'ran though, the legendary book of humane mistakes

piss off, nazi

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Jan 23 2015 11:56am
what religion does to people -> follow God's orders and not end up in hell
Not the qu'ran though, the legendary book of humane mistakes

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what? didn't you claim that Christianity is a guilt based religion?
here.

then...

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piss off, nazi


Christianity and it's various sects varies drastically from one person to another. But yes.... the gospel of salvation is guilt based. You are bad or broken and need saving.
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