Validation Of The Slippery Slope Argument. - Topic

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#181

Feb 4 2011 01:16pm

Quote (killgoreisleet @ Feb 4 2011 07:13pm)

Sucks you can't decide what you want to do in the privacy of your own business.

It was bullshit for two reasons, the above being one of them. The second is that, because the stipulation was that nobody could smoke in a bar if food was served, the smaller bars and companies couldn't afford to reform their business and adapt to the new law while the big casinos and businesses had no issue with it. It was a law that killed smaller business (or, if not "killed" impaired) and supported bigger business because they have shit loads of room for people to smoke at, anyway, and they didn't feel the effect.

I am fine with restaurants having a "smoking" and "non-smoking" section, so that only those who wishfully subject themselves to cigarette smoke deal with it.

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Feb 4 2011 01:16pm

Quote (TeH SaNdMaN @ Feb 4 2011 01:16pm)

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#183

Feb 4 2011 01:23pm

Quote (bentherdonethat @ Feb 4 2011 01:42am)

Nicotine gum, nicotine patches, smokeless (i.e. chewing) tobacco, etc. You don't need to smoke in order to get nicotine. It's the same with medical marijuana. There are quite a few methods of getting THC that don't require setting a plant on fire. So really, the point stands. Smoking doesn't serve a purpose even if nicotine does.

actually last i checked medical marijuana wasnt the same. they tried making a pill i believe marinol and it wasnt quite as effective as compared to that of smoking. currently, they are still attempting to make more efficient methods though.

This post was edited by cialda on Feb 4 2011 01:31pm

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#184

Feb 4 2011 01:32pm

Quote (cialda @ Feb 4 2011 02:23pm)

actually last i checked medical marijuana wasnt the same. they tried making a pill i believe marinol and it wasnt quite as effective as compared to the that of smoking. currently, they are still attempting to make more efficient methods though.

Marinol is a joke. My father is prescribed it as an appetite aid.
Makes him sleep alot and then he wouldn't always have the desire to eat.
Doctor actually stopped the prescription because they didn't want him to get addicted. Exact words of the doctor.

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#185

Feb 4 2011 01:33pm

Quote (lone500 @ Feb 4 2011 06:13pm)

so you have a fear of cancer and thats why you dont want people to smoke.

time to change the way everyone eats as well. Along with all the other toxins put into our bodies that cause cancer.

Concern around ciggarette smoke and food are not the same in regards to their cancer causing properties since you're not going to be affected by the man sitting next to you eating Mc. Donalds or what have you.

It's not about what individuals put into their bodies and whether or not it involves a risk of cancer for the individual, but whether that risk extends to the people around them. There is no such thing as second-hand-obesity in a way comparable to second-hand-smoke.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Feb 4 2011 01:34pm

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Feb 4 2011 01:34pm

Quote (Santara @ Feb 4 2011 06:42pm)

Smoking is NOT something that can be stopped, just look at the drug war and alcohol's prohibition era.

I think since his post was a continuation of mine, that when he means 'smoking is something that can be stopped' he means that any individual can put their cigarrette out.

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#187

Feb 4 2011 01:59pm

Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 4 2011 07:33pm)

lol second hand obesity made me lmao.

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Feb 4 2011 06:46pm

Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 4 2011 02:33pm)

Concern around ciggarette smoke and food are not the same in regards to their cancer causing properties since you're not going to be affected by the man sitting next to you eating Mc. Donalds or what have you.

It's not about what individuals put into their bodies and whether or not it involves a risk of cancer for the individual, but whether that risk extends to the people around them. There is no such thing as second-hand-obesity in a way comparable to second-hand-smoke.

I'm pretty sure the exact way a mega corp like mcdonalds makes all of its cash, through clever marketing and word of mouth, also parents are usually the ones who bring their kids to mcdicks for the first time to enjoy their heart attack waiting to happen.

These two facts are directly linked once you put the constraint of affecting other people. It is human nature to mimic someone's behavior sub-consciously (it is how we learn to walk, talk, read, write etc). A yawn isn't contagious due to some magical outside influence like god it is just HOW WE WORK.

/e in case you didn't figure out my simple point in all of that.

I see some guy eating a fucking bigmac on the corner of the street i just might be inclined to go buy one.

If you are going to tell me that the effects of second hand smoke are guaranteed i need cited proof please.

This post was edited by Poonisher on Feb 4 2011 06:48pm

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Feb 4 2011 06:48pm

Quote (Poonisher @ Feb 5 2011 12:46am)

Deciding out of observation =/= being unwillingly subjected to.

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