I don't think this conclusion that Ukraine is on the verge of collapse necessarily follows from the recent push for a ceasefire. Trump turned his attention to Ukraine pretty much as soon as the Gaza ceasefire deal was done. After notching a major foreign policy success by brokering a ceasefire in Gaza, it makes perfect sense from both a rational and a psychological point of view that Trump now seeks to do the same in Ukraine. Even from a geopolitical pov, it makes sense to get rid of this distraction so that the full focus can be turned on the actual rival, China. And also from an economic pov: ending the Ukraine war would ease inflation and supply chain issues across the globe. Trump's advisors probably know full well that a souring economy is the biggest threat to his presidency.

Likewise, Russia increasing its missile and drone attacks can also be viewed as their attempt to get into as dominant a position as possible ahead of negotiations. (Although I believe that it's more a retaliation for Ukrainian attacks on Russian refineries and factories.)

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 22 2025 09:18pm

News that will bring joy to the hearts of those who support the orcs in this war

https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/10/22/russia-strikes-kharkiv-kindergarten-with-drones-1-fatality-multiple-injuries-including-children/

This post was edited by duffman316 on Oct 22 2025 09:37pm

Another duffman post, more BS propaganda

Go back Gaza topic that's what civilian casualty numbers look like when you bomb civilian targets on purpose I bet you're enjoying it every inch of the way

There's photos, videos and more than one article. Nevermind the precedent then orcs have set with there prior history of massacring civilians. Why do you bend over backwards to defend such barbaric savages?

https://www.newsweek.com/child-screams-for-mama-in-harrowing-video-as-russia-strikes-kindergarten-10918921?utm_source=reddit&utm_campaign=reddit_influencers

https://sfg.media/en/a/russian-strike-kindergarten-kharkiv/

This post was edited by duffman316 on Oct 23 2025 12:06am

he is not denying the story. he is denying the deliberate targeting. unlike in Israel where the targeting is deliberate. Russia could have flattened Ukraine 10 times over by now if it really wanted to, which, it does not. Gaza meanwhile, HAS been flattened. So Western Values has flattened a people, while Russian barbarism, has not.

in war stuff happens. focusing on strikes like this KINDERGARTEN! CHILDREN! is trying evoke and encourage a narrative, which we have seen throughout this war. Russia must be barbaric, orc's, less then human. dehumanize them, just like the palestinians, play on everyones fears. have to kill them have to kill them all, for truth, freedom and democracy!

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 23 2025 12:46am

Its something when people need reminding the Ukraine war casualties are 99.9% adult males and the Gaza war its about half women and children. The Israelis have to cut through the moral knot tied by a foe who uses child soldiers and human shields, the Ukrainians have propagandists covering up Nazi tattoos of their interview subjects

I never understood the reflex to compare war crimes, as if only the worst one deserves condemnation. This is as stupid as GOAT discussions in sports.

Isn't it normal human behavior that when "your" side has done something atrocious, you try to excuse and deflect from it as much as possible? A deliberate attack on a kindergarten would be indefensible even for the staunchest Russia shills, so of course it's far more comfortable to explain it as a mistake/with "in wars, shit happens".

That being said, I don't really see a convincing rationale for why Russia should have deliberately wasted a missile on a kindergarten.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 23 2025 01:57am

Sure, children already show that kind of behavior. I just get the impression that once this kind of argumentation comes up, the dialogue is already stuck in a loop and the crime is downplayed. It makes much more sense to condemn each crime individually.
To stay with my sports comparison, an athlete’s achievements are immediately diminished if you always compare them to the GOAT.

For the umpteenth time, evil Russia has hit a kindergarten deep at night, supposedly to kill as many children as possible. The casualty was the night watchman- or a pedophile, or both in one person.