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Jan 18 2024 12:49pm
Quote (SBD @ Jan 18 2024 11:38am)
There's a lot of things that shouldn't happen in an ideal world, but because we live in reality, we have to have a form of dealing with things that do happen.

Now if you have a head on your shoulders you know that countries with liberal abortion laws result in less unintended pregnancies which means outlawing abortion isn't going to stop the making of a baby for a person that does not want one. Quite obviously this helps prevent the cycle given that kids born into families that do not want them perform the worst socio-economically and have poor education rates which means they have a higher rate of repeating the same thing, resulting in more kids and the cycle continues.

Its not overly difficult to understand.

But again, the diehard US Republican would rather align themselves with Africa, South American and other underdeveloped societies.




Less unintended births maybe.
But liberal abortion laws has absolutely nothing to do with whether women get pregnant or not.

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Quote (SBD @ Jan 18 2024 01:19pm)
>" But hey, at least we're educated and can have dozens of sex partners without consequences or strings attached. #progress."
> "My argument is clearly based on adequate replacement rates,"

You damn yourself with dishonesty. Its the same when I brought up most of the worst except the least educated places are pro-abortion and you reply with yeah because of religion. Well of course, most of those places have the poorest literacy rates in the world, hence why religion remains so popular in places like Africa and South America while its died in the West.

Its just so dishonest.


You took the punchline which wasn't actually directed just at women but hedonism and hook up culture in general, and ran with it as some anti-women sentiment. Good job, like I said, swinging at phantoms.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 18 2024 12:03pm)
You took the punchline which wasn't actually directed just at women but hedonism and hook up culture in general, and ran with it as some anti-women sentiment. Good job, like I said, swinging at phantoms.


Be as dishonest as you want, no one's buying it.
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Jan 18 2024 03:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 18 2024 10:14am)
why not kill two twins with one vacuum here?

get an legal abortion, but you're disqualified from ever collecting social security. solve two issues at once here.


I love how conservatives think theyre on some kind of high-horse




lets get real extreme with these ridiculous 50-iq thought experiments

how about if drivers get a ticket, theyre banned from driving
or if you've ever gone to church and tithed, you are also culpable if someone in your church is found guilty of abuse
or if you've ever declared bankruptcy, you are banned from getting any loans of any kind and subsequently are ineligible for filing bankruptcy ever again
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Jan 18 2024 03:34pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 18 2024 02:28pm)
I love how conservatives think theyre on some kind of high-horse




lets get real extreme with these ridiculous 50-iq thought experiments

how about if drivers get a ticket, theyre banned from driving
or if you've ever gone to church and tithed, you are also culpable if someone in your church is found guilty of abuse
or if you've ever declared bankruptcy, you are banned from getting any loans of any kind and subsequently are ineligible for filing bankruptcy ever again


I don't think you should stop there. I think anyone who has ever drank, smoked, done any type of drug ever should be allowed access to any form of subsidized or public healthcare. Maybe we shouldn't stop at that though, there's so much more ground to cover.

I think it makes sense that we just go full social credit score.
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Jan 18 2024 03:47pm
Quote (SBD @ Jan 18 2024 01:34pm)
I don't think you should stop there. I think anyone who has ever drank, smoked, done any type of drug ever should be allowed access to any form of subsidized or public healthcare. Maybe we shouldn't stop at that though, there's so much more ground to cover.

I think it makes sense that we just go full social credit score.


agree, lets just punish everyone for every transgression, no matter how small, because thats the moral thing to do.

oh youre obese? your fault, no healthcare for you
no kids? no marriage for you!
kids without marriage? straight to jail!

lets make this country great again boyos
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Jan 19 2024 07:05am
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 18 2024 03:28pm)
I love how conservatives think theyre on some kind of high-horse




lets get real extreme with these ridiculous 50-iq thought experiments

how about if drivers get a ticket, theyre banned from driving
or if you've ever gone to church and tithed, you are also culpable if someone in your church is found guilty of abuse
or if you've ever declared bankruptcy, you are banned from getting any loans of any kind and subsequently are ineligible for filing bankruptcy ever again


You took a clear joke seriously just so you could pretend im a conservative? lol. classic.
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Jan 19 2024 08:20am
the justification is usually a threat to the mother's life, which is quite rare (less than 2% of cases)

a blanket justification is not warranted with those numbers, hence the "my body my choice" argument

bill clinton probably nailed this debate in the early 90's "make it safe, legal, and rare"

Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 7 2024 04:35am)
Every birth has a risk of death, period.
Banning abortion is slavery and torture.


most birth rates have plummetted and not many women have been saved. this might not work out for society.

you are more likely to die in a car crash.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jan 19 2024 08:22am
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2024 07:05am)
You took a clear joke seriously just so you could pretend im a conservative? lol. classic.


Making sense = conservatism.


Deal with it bruh.
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Jan 19 2024 11:40am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 19 2024 05:05am)
You took a clear joke seriously just so you could pretend im a conservative? lol. classic.


well youre against abortion and evidently against social security, what in your mind would that make you? be every reasonable metric, you're a conservative
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