i get your entire stance, its pretty simple. but it's also not worth anything, tbh. you're mad some tribesmen are killing kids. so what is to be done? the american government should make the CIA work with the brazillian government to do covert operations to flush them out of the jungle into cities to force assimilate them?

your insistence that they can simply be scolded out of this practice is absurd. this is based in their ideas of religion, mysticism etc. we'd need to change the underlying cause or our scolds will have no power. unless we threaten them. so what do we do cam? roll in with tanks and say stop murdering a kid every now and then or we'll flatten your entire tribe?

your stance boils down to "i dont like this" with no action. unless you want to spend american tax dollars. we're talking about the brazillians man, they aren't even stopping people from burning down the rainforest and killing/displacing tribes. why would they do anything about a small number of tribesmen killing each other?

you can also frame it as some sick science experiment but that's not really fair. Many fields draw on tribes for research, from human behavior to modern medicine.

if i'm off base here lmk, what's your plan? or did you just want to shit on another culture while not trying anything to solve the problem? this is the duffpost afterall.



this isn't at all what i was saying. there are 100% uncontacted tribes in the rainforest, and its pretty likely that they hold the same practices. so are you saying we should only scold the contacted tribes? or should we treat all tribes equally and delve into the forest and contact uncontacted tribes to stamp out the practices absolutely. why is a life more important in a contacted tribe? my guess is, since you don't value the culture, you want those tribes contracted to stop the murder. so who's paying for it? you?

You don't even know what i'm 'insisting' or the basics of what was even said.

People were discussing better alternatives with the tribe, alternatives that can help kids instead of killing them.
The people 'scolding' were the anthropologists.


discussion and exposure to knowledge is a pretty good step.

'Run them down with tanks and CIA ops' or 'completely avoid them' are not the only two options.


I don't have a problem with contacting tribes and informing them that killing kids for ridiculous and ignorant reasons is wrong and informing them about medical conditions that arent actually demonic omens.

I dont have to personally be forced to pay to contact and discuss/enforce the immorality of killing children in order to oppose killing kids and oppose the people trying to scold and ban people who want to protect kids.
These people are willingly and freely involved in talking with the tribes and adopted the saved child for free.

The dichotomy between ignore them or support large US tax expenditures is a false one.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jun 7 2018 11:28am

we seem to be on different pages. i am entirely fine with the work anthropologists are doing talking to contacted tribes. and so are they.

my issue is entirely with uncontacted tribes. which you say you support contacting to stop this murder. i can guarantee the brazillians wont do that. they've been scattering ranchers that get too close for decades to protect that culture, including military attacks that cost lives. those cultures already have a death toll. like it or hate it that's reality, and the brazillians alone aren't going to change that imo. so we'd need to lean on them somehow, the CIA is the most likely apparatus for that other than some public campaign which i dont see working.

the only way to stop those murders is to firstly find all the tribes, which has been an ongoing project for decades, almost centuries. then pay for expeditions into the jungle to stop them from murdering, which first means making contact and establishing trust. these are the same tribes that shoot arrows at approaching boats sometimes, shoot at drones, etc. there is a language barrier sometimes, and a massive cultural barrier.

for contacted tribes with established anthropologists with lines of trust, fine. seems like a win-win honestly. but for uncontacted tribes its a logistical nightmare if we're being absolutists, and involves expeditions that may fail no matter what we do given hostilities of some tribes. i'm not saying it isn't noble to try and stop the murder, i'm saying it may be fruitless in some scenarios so we cant be absolutist about it being motivated by murder and therefore inherently top priority. that puts it over money, cultural issues, and likelihood of success.

you too can make 60k a year putting back together what a toddler ripped up
https://nypost.com/2018/06/10/trump-routinely-rips-up-papers-that-need-to-be-preserved

puzzles are fun

lol... thats hilarious

Now does this pay better or worse than the job where you stroke his ego with positive news stories?

Lol. excellent policy.





and these entitled cucks wonder why they were fired..

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jun 11 2018 07:49am

Uhh shouldnt your libertarian principles be agreeing with them. Paying somebody 60k a year to tape paper is even more waste than usual.

i agree with them getting fired.

The 60k doesn't change depending on whether they have to tape a letter back together or not.

Opposition to a snobby government lackey having to do tasks he deems beneath himself is not a libertarian principle.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jun 11 2018 08:10am