Yes, I would.

Well, if it's hope hicks, I might look for the tape first, but then I would.

the minor crimes bit went out the window when he asked Comey to investigate the peepee tape. those minor crimes still wont be enough for impeachment to pass so im not really sure why you're so stuck on that. this debacle isn't what made this a circus it just added another ring.



why does that set it apart tho? because, reasons?

you're also seeming to be fusing playmate Karen McDougal and pornstar Stormy daniels into one person, unless im mistaken. not that it makes any difference, playmates are generally famous for a month then disappear back to stripping or do more lewd modeling.

The pee tape thing only existed in the media because the FBI leaked it. And quite possibly leaked by Comey himself, though possibly McCabe or someone lower down.
Lets remember back to 15 months ago when this story only reached national attention because it was included in an FBI intelligence report to the presidential candidates listed as disinformation, and the role of the steele dossier in the FISA warrant process- and even the existence of wiretaps on Trump officials- was unknown. The FBI created a wildfire by leaking selected details like the pissgate dossier in order to smear Trump, and Trump asked them to put out the fire they started, and then Comey used Trump's request as evidence of political interference. Which is why the Comey/McCabe era is going to go down as one real clusterfuck to rival J Edgar Hoover.

This is precisely the kind of dangers posed by a politicized FBI. They were free to engage in rampant politically motivated leaking and spying, and then when the President dared to try to ask them to knock it off, they accuse him of obstruction of justice by politically interfering in their politically motivated circus. And here we are, waiting for a soon to drop Mueller report in coming weeks in which he's expected to say that Trump's dismissal of Comey was politically motivated and thus obstructed justice, but will likely ignore the part where Comey was politically compromised and brought it on himself.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 03:08pm

its alsmost as if Mueller/the fbi/the deep state settled for "we dont have enough to get him impeached, so we're just doing everything in our power to hurt the GOP and make sure that they lose at least one chamber in the midterms, effectively neutering trump's presidency."





because work-related power dynamics can quickly turn into coercion.

"blow me, and you'll get a letter of recommendation from the POTUS himself - refuse me, and you'll never find a job in DC ever again" is different from
"blow me, and I'll pay you shitloads of money - refuse me, and you get nothing."





... which is still one or two steps above b-rate porn "stars".

have a source for that, not being snarky. timeline in my head and what im finding online shows buzzfeed broke the story straight from steele after he shopped it to mother jones. i can only find mention that it was an "open secret" the dossier existed by that time.



ive maintained this is pure obstruction, they know they cant get him impeached, potentially grandstanding by mueller, and dirty ball. im not sure what your point is other than you wrapped mine in a bit more tinfoil



so since karen mcdougal is in show business, trump is actively in show business and can blackball any young woman with ease this is extra bad?

plus with the money imbalance what it is trump could just threaten to bury any pornstar.

im not saying he did/would, you're just making claims about differences in the power dynamic that dont actually line up with reality. you're being too biased. stop that.



no, it isn't. you know why goes on the stripping circuit? b rate porn stars, they scrape out a few hundred k a year getting ones tossed them as feature dancers. lewd modeling is literally b rate porn. the only a list porn stars are on massive contracts with a few big time studios and they make bank, and work in a very safe environment by comparison. Stormy Daniels got one of those deals, AFTER the scandal broke, not before.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 13 2018 03:21pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-briefing-materials-included-damaging-allegations-russian-ties-sources-n705511
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-cites-nazi-germany-rejects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

Steele was shopping around the story and nobody broke it until buzzfeed did once the detail leaked from the FBI that it was in the report to Trump.
the source cited by NBC was "Two U.S. officials with direct knowledge". Now who could those be? Lisa Page and Michael Korton? McCabe and Comey? Lower officials we don't know about?

That entire winter became one blizzard of leaks from the FBI one after another.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 03:27pm

ok but the dossier was an open secret in the media and just wasnt printed because no one could verify the claims. so lots of people knew about it. i remember hearing outlandish rumors before the dossier hit buzzfeed, a few of which were in there and a few that werent.

and im not really interested in tinfoil hat shit speculating who leaked it. you cant blame it on the FBI then say "it was leaked by the FBI, probably." bad form.

eh its kind of a quibble over leaking the actual document versus corroborating it. But the FBI leaked the details of the dossier that allowed it to be publish as anything more than a completely unsubstantiated rumor by a crackpot: its inclusion in that FBI briefing report. And as the CNN story and NBC stories that broke it cited 'anonymous US officials', and only the FBI had access to those reports, well, the FBI and Obama himself, it had to have been the FBI.
the CNN story here I think was the earliest one:
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html
cited 'multiple US officials with direct knowledge of the briefings'. It was only after CNN posted that report that buzzfeed decided to take the leap

I can safely say that leaked from the FBI, but I honestly have no idea who within the FBI. How many people had access to such top level reports? It could have been another Reality Winner for all I know, but it could have been Comey, or Mccabe, or both, or neither. I'm gonna safely assume it wasn't done by Obama himself or someone on Obama's behalf.
I mean, it could have went from the FBI to the other intel chiefs and then leaked from the CIA or NSA, but within the IC either way. The number of possible names outside of the FBI gets very small.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 03:41pm

I think it's one of those "common sense" talking points that just isn't true. There's varying degrees of corruption, some of it is just the way the game is played, but the idea that everyone in Washington has a bunch of criminal behavior in their past is silly.

I expect you guys to ramp up this talking point though when the indictments start flying. The goalposts are always moving.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 13 2018 04:05pm

https://www.scribd.com/document/376304971/McCabe-Report-Redacted-for-Response-to-Chairmen-s-Requests-20180413#from_embed

this fucking OIG report drops some new juicy details;





Someone is also claiming that it says McCabe was actually calling FBI agents asking who the leaker was, but I haven't found that section yet. Eh, I don't see that, just the 3 calls to FBI offices accusing them. If someone finds that in the link, let me know
So not only was McCabe leaking and lying about it to Comey and INSD and OIG, but he actually did the mole-hunting-mole routine and was admonishing other FBI offices for the leaks he had himself committed

AND LIBERALS DONATED $500,000 TO HIS LEGAL DEFENSE

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 04:20pm