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Quote (Skinned @ 13 Apr 2018 16:44)
It was the gop's turn out of the White House and they let a reality star when the primary, douches.

wat
and no it was her —> turn, you’re still lucid dont act like you forgot
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It was the gop's turn at the White House and they let a reality star win the primary, douches.


lefty understanding of politics in a nutshell: "it's the party leadership, and not the base, who gets to decide the candidates/who runs the country."
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Quote (excellence @ Apr 13 2018 12:40pm)
>GOP failed to win the last general election against the most smartest most qualified most bestest candidate ever

well actually orange Drumpf won it, GOP had little to do with it tbh. well said carry on commie.

e: reported, btw


GOP won because of Daddy Electoral College.
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I don't care in a legal sense. It should make the RNC and GOP look bad, lol.

I reject the Trump cult talking point that everyone in politics is equally corrupt, or has a myriad of crimes they've committed in the past. It's nonsense intended to muddy the waters because the man you voted for is a criminal scoundrel.

So far I haven't seen any good evidence that the Mueller investigation has gone off the rails at all. Read the mandate, if Mueller finds additional crimes, he's not going to just ignore them. He'll either pursue those crimes himself, or refer them to a US attorney's office.


I reject the anti-Trump cult talking point where the world didn't exist before 2016, because everyone and their mother has said that everyone in politics is corrupt and criminal. You could throw a stick in the air in D.C. and have it land on a teapot dome or iran-contra. For fucks sake, even Alexander Hamilton was paying hush money to cover up his affair back in 1792. If you want to find a crook in washington, you plant your feet and do a full 360 degree spin.

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lefty understanding of politics in a nutshell: "it's the party leadership, and not the base, who gets to decide the candidates/who runs the country."


:rofl:

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 02:51pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 13 2018 02:46pm)
had he told the truth during the hearings, he wouldnt have been impeached despite the blowjob.






lol? I never pretended like Bill/Monika wasnt consensual. but it's still a highly immoral thing to do.

there is of course a huge power imbalance between the president of the united states and a white house intern.
there is only very little power imbalance, if any at all, between a venture capitalist and a pornstar.


ahhh yes that b-rate porn star is so powerful compared to a guy who admits he gropes women because he's famous and they let him do it. you realize of course how incredibly weak the position of most women in porn is, right? like they get contracts broken by directors, costars, and agents all the time with little to no recourse.

Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 13 2018 02:49pm)
I reject the anti-Trump cult talking point where the world didn't exist before 2016, because everyone and their mother has said that everyone in political is corrupt and criminal. You could throw a stick in the air in D.C. and have it land on a teapot dome or iran-contra. For fucks sake, even Alexander Hamilton was paying hush money to cover up his affair back in 1792. If you want to find a crook in washington, you plant your feet and do a full 360 degree spin.


all corrupt =/= equally corrupt.

i mean you're smart, but no where near as smart as me.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 13 2018 02:51pm
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this has to be the most confirmation bias laden post ive seen you make in a while my man.... trump has had to walk back his twitter feed on a weekly basis. both in foreign and domestic policy. the fact that you're extrapolating from just the redline situation things about Obama that are actually far more attributable to Trump is silly. just stop. trump predictably walks back bullshit far more than Obama ever had to, the fact that you think Obama was predictable and weak is silly. the guy ran an insane drone program and was hawkish on a lot of conflicts.

if you're really going to make the argument that trump isnt being hypocritical in his forecasting of moves and that it was an ok idea because he's warning the russians you need to take a walk. thats just dumb. plain and simple.


of course trump is a hypocrite, of course he is backtracking on his announcements far too often when it comes to domestic issues. but on foreign policy and syria in particular, he hasnt acted out of the line yet.

and yes, obama was using lots of drones and was hawkish on a lot of issues, but he was weak on a lot of things as well. his policy in the middle east was a complete and utter disaster.

and no, warning the russians of imminent strikes on military bases where russian soldiers might be stationed, thus reducing the risk of american cruise missiles killing russian soldiers, is not "just dumb, plain and simple", its a good thing.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 13 2018 02:51pm)
of course trump is a hypocrite, of course he is backtracking on his announcements far too often when it comes to domestic issues. but on foreign policy and syria in particular, he hasnt acted out of the line yet.


trump has flip flopped on syria and what needs to be done already. then when he was shown how hypocritical his bomb tweet was he backtracked to maybe soon, maybe not soon, we'll see. he's all brash then a big softy. the MOAB was a pr op not actual strength. no one was fooled.

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and yes, obama was using lots of drones and was hawkish on a lot of issues, but he was weak on a lot of things as well. his policy in the middle east was a complete and utter disaster.


being a disaster and being weak arent the same thing. i agree with one of those.

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and no, warning the russians of imminent strikes on military bases where russian soldiers might be stationed, thus reducing the risk of american cruise missiles killing russian soldiers, is not "just dumb, plain and simple", its a good thing.


:bonk: :bonk: :bonk: on twitter....... you realize governments have ways to actually communicate, right?
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Apr 13 2018 02:56pm
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all corrupt =/= equally corrupt.

i mean you're smart, but no where near as smart as me.


But if the issue is with relative degrees of corruption, then that just leads us back to the point where they're digging up minor irrelevant crimes that have far more political consequences than legal consequences.
Paying hush money via shady bank accounts is not a serious crime, and leading an inquisition to root it out while ignoring far more significant wrongdoings is what XistenZ said: A politicized investigation
If a permanent inquisitor was set up to scrutinize every aspect of the DNC and pore over their finances, they could find far more damning things than just 'paying an unethical door man $30,000 to fuck off when he fabricated a damaging lie'
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ahhh yes that b-rate porn star is so powerful compared to a guy who admits he gropes women because he's famous and they let him do it. you realize of course how incredibly weak the position of most women in porn is, right? like they get contracts broken by directors, costars, and agents all the time with little to no recourse.




the girl wasnt a fucked up b-rate porn star with a drug problem, she was a playboy playmate.

and money generally creates an imbalance of power. this power dynamics is at work in any relationship or affair where one of the parties earns more than the other.

what sets clinton/lewinsky apart from this is the fact that there was a huge work-related power imbalance.

and just for the record: if proof popped up that trump was fucking hope hicks ( :drool: ) or sarah sanders ( :ph34r: ) in the oval office, I would be calling for his impeachment as well.

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the girl wasnt a fucked up b-rate porn star with a drug problem, she was a playboy playmate.

and money generally creates an imbalance of power. this power dynamics is at work in any relationship or affair where one of the parties earns more than the other.

what sets clinton/lewinsky apart from this is the fact that there was a huge work-related power imbalance.

and just for the record: if proof popped up that trump was fucking hope hicks in the oval office, I would be calling for his impeachment as well.


No you wouldn't.
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