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Apr 13 2018 04:49am
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The overton window or w/e makes it highly unlikely for a white family to be consistently democrat


Yeah. Some are duds. They become Men Going Their Own Way.
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Yeah. Some are duds. They become Men Going Their Own Way.



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Apr 13 2018 07:13am
And Cohen pleads the fifth.



At least there's a trump response for it. Didn't age very well though.

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Apr 13 2018 10:35am
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And Cohen pleads the fifth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR0bIxwAF_k

At least there's a trump response for it. Didn't age very well though.


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Apr 13 2018 11:30am
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And Cohen pleads the fifth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR0bIxwAF_k

At least there's a trump response for it. Didn't age very well though.


"don't give the enemy any warning, we're broadcasting our moves"

"BOMBS ARE COMING RUSSIA GOOD LUCK STOPPING THEM"


Trump, like cardsultan, doesnt need to be argued. just give him time and he'll circle back to arguing himself.
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Apr 13 2018 11:33am
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"don't give the enemy any warning, we're broadcasting our moves"

"BOMBS ARE COMING RUSSIA GOOD LUCK STOPPING THEM"


Trump, like cardsultan, doesnt need to be argued. just give him time and he'll circle back to arguing himself.


well, giving the russian a headsup to get the f*** out of there is a wise move imho. and by sometimes pulling through on his twitter threats and sometimes tracking back, trump increases his unpredictability even further. according to the madman theory, this makes him even "stronger", no matter how bad it looks to the audience at home.
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Apr 13 2018 11:40am
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well, giving the russian a headsup to get the f*** out of there is a wise move imho. and by sometimes pulling through on his twitter threats and sometimes tracking back, trump increases his unpredictability even further. according to the madman theory, this makes him even "stronger", no matter how bad it looks to the audience at home.


that would be valid if he wasn't criticizing Obama for doing the exact same thing when russians were involved. or maybe it would be a valid point if the govt had ANY OTHER WAY to speak with the russians other than twitter. Red phone, email, a post card, you know......things.

this whole madman 5d chess theory is getting retarded. It only has face validity because trump is inherently without a concrete platform and cares so much about how people feel about him that his opinion varies from meeting to meeting. it's either that or his plan it 100% calculated but ineffective. he's done fuckall and his main wins were paul ryan driven optics wins. YAHOOO WE MOVED THE ISRAELI EMBASSY! if that's a legitimate top 5 contended in 2020 that's laughable. even obummer got more done and he was nothing but a veto stamp for 6 years. Trumps heading the same way with a lower approval rating, better economy, and no active foreign wars (only occupations for the most part).

Anyone buying the overall mad genius stuff is just looking for an excuse.
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Apr 13 2018 11:58am
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that would be valid if he wasn't criticizing Obama for doing the exact same thing when russians were involved. or maybe it would be a valid point if the govt had ANY OTHER WAY to speak with the russians other than twitter. Red phone, email, a post card, you know......things.

this whole madman 5d chess theory is getting retarded. It only has face validity because trump is inherently without a concrete platform and cares so much about how people feel about him that his opinion varies from meeting to meeting. it's either that or his plan it 100% calculated but ineffective. he's done fuckall and his main wins were paul ryan driven optics wins. YAHOOO WE MOVED THE ISRAELI EMBASSY! if that's a legitimate top 5 contended in 2020 that's laughable. even obummer got more done and he was nothing but a veto stamp for 6 years. Trumps heading the same way with a lower approval rating, better economy, and no active foreign wars (only occupations for the most part).

Anyone buying the overall mad genius stuff is just looking for an excuse.


trump rightfully criticized obama because obama was pulling back all the time. obama was very predictable in showing weak reactions. trump is not.

I dont completely buy into the madman theory either, just so you know. I just pointed out that according to this theory, Trump backtracking on his threats from time to time can make sense.
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Apr 13 2018 12:01pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 13 2018 11:58am)
trump rightfully criticized obama because obama was pulling back all the time. obama was very predictable in showing weak reactions. trump is not.

I dont completely buy into the madman theory either, just so you know. I just pointed out that according to this theory, Trump backtracking on his threats from time to time can make sense.


wait a second. obama makes red line boast, then back tracks, and is an idiot. Trump makes bomb boats, both in the middle east and north korea, then back tracks, and isn't weak? much confuse...

i realize you're not a madman theorist, my point was that theory has only face validity. and doesnt make sense on the whole given the info we have.
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Apr 13 2018 12:21pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 13 Apr 2018 20:01)
wait a second. obama makes red line boast, then back tracks, and is an idiot. Trump makes bomb boats, both in the middle east and north korea, then back tracks, and isn't weak? much confuse...

i realize you're not a madman theorist, my point was that theory has only face validity. and doesnt make sense on the whole given the info we have.


trump sent cruise missiles in april 2017 when he and his generals came to the conclusion that assad had crossed a red line.
he stopped threats of military actions against NK only after the north koreans struck a much more servile tone and offered wide-reaching diplomatic talks.
he will most likely still send cruise missiles to syria again this time around, we just dont know the scope yet.

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