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Nov 14 2021 09:49am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 14 2021 10:47am)
you take things out of context to make your argument and you call yourself "good"

cut n past this is what i said

you partake in constant race baiting and your going to call your self "good"?

your correct about one thing, the world is a horrible place and if you had any scriptural understanding at all you would know that isnt a reasoned argument.

how come you are only concerned with slaves of one race but remain indifferent about slaves of other races and you call yourself "good"

although it may have been inadvertently you where just tested on your scriptural knowledge/understanding and you got a big fat "L"

you are being offered salvation from amidst a horrible place of mans making and doing and your squandering it because you call your self "good"


We are talking about religion and you are bringing up irrelevant things because you can't answer simple questions. Do better.

Now, time to redeem yourself. Do you believe in divine revelation?
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Nov 14 2021 09:54am
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We are talking about religion and you are bringing up irrelevant things because you can't answer simple questions. Do better.

Now, time to redeem yourself. Do you believe in divine revelation?


do you really believe your self "good"

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Nov 14 2021 09:59am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 14 2021 10:54am)
do you really believe your self "good"


Do you believe in divine revelation ?
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Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 14 2021 07:35am)
and you think what you just offered is a "high IQ " response

The bible is a collection of 66 books written over a period of approximately 1400-1500 years in 3 different languages across 3 continents by over 40 different authors from every walk of life (from a kings throne to prison cell). Most of whom never knew each other and many of which died a horrible death rather than deny their faith. With no historical errors or contradictions, coming together in one single unified harmonious message.

The creation, fall and redemption
Gods universal love for all humanity
A common message of salvation is available to all who repent of their sins and commit to following God with all their heart, soul, strength and mind.



Keep up the good work!, though i might disagree w/ regard to contradictions because even the bible is subject to infiltration:
ex: god as a "roaring lion" satan as a "roaring lion", etc.
"I will go after the Lord: he shall utter his voice as a lion: for he shall roar"
"Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour."

although the symbolic implication is that satan pretends to be god hence the fitting conundrum, but topically speaking bible has some poor word choices which
can enable confusion/anger even in faithful people. Personally, i would have used "roaring" vs "ravenous", or roaring vs raging, or singing vs roaring, etc.

TLR the bible or book is imperfect, the spirit that inspired it is perfect.
Safe to say much of the moral message of the bible is well put but there are unfortunate issues with some details if not the edits by people who are not/were seemingly not of christ.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Nov 14 2021 10:05am
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Nov 14 2021 10:18am
Quote (kenw @ Nov 14 2021 07:59am)
Do you believe in divine revelation ?


you offer low IQ red herring. you really think your "good"
its not on me to entertain your trickery

is it not curious that the atheist/antitheist represents scripture so well?

Romans 3:10-18
King James Version

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
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Nov 14 2021 10:21am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 14 2021 11:18am)
you offer low IQ red herring. you really think your "good"
its not on me to entertain your trickery

is it not curious that the atheist/antitheist represents scripture so well?

Romans 3:10-18
King James Version

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.


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Nov 14 2021 10:34am
Quote (lodd222 @ Nov 14 2021 08:00am)
Keep up the good work!, though i might disagree w/ regard to contradictions because even the bible is subject to infiltration:
ex: god as a "roaring lion" satan as a "roaring lion", etc.
"I will go after the Lord: he shall utter his voice as a lion: for he shall roar"
"Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour."

although the symbolic implication is that satan pretends to be god hence the fitting conundrum, but topically speaking bible has some poor word choices which
can enable confusion/anger even in faithful people. Personally, i would have used "roaring" vs "ravenous", or roaring vs raging, or singing vs roaring, etc.

TLR the bible or book is imperfect, the spirit that inspired it is perfect.
Safe to say much of the moral message of the bible is well put but there are unfortunate issues with some details if not the edits by people who are not/were seemingly not of christ.


im sorry. i just dont have a problem with the authors using a lion in both instances to express an idea.

in all my time doing this i have only heard one near reasoned argument (imo)
if i remembered the details I would share it with you. but I dont it was so long ago and even it had a reasonable explanation.

one of the tricks the antitheist uses and i find it some what humorous.
if scripture is similar they cry fraud and plagiarism
but if its dissimilar they cry fraud and contradiction
:D
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Nov 14 2021 10:37am
Quote (kenw @ Nov 14 2021 08:21am)
Do you believe in divine revelation?


you accuse me of not answering questions. but the offer low IQ red herring, your doing exactly what you accuse me of.
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Nov 14 2021 10:43am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 14 2021 11:37am)
you accuse me of not answering questions. but the offer low IQ red herring, your doing exactly what you accuse me of.


Do you believe in divine revelation?
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Nov 14 2021 10:46am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 14 2021 08:37am)
you accuse me of not answering questions. but the offer low IQ red herring, your doing exactly what you accuse me of.


That would be because you don't answer questions.
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