Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 29 2022 10:54pm)
I was stunned that anyone could be so stupid, but then I remembered he's a crack addict.
The New York Post isn't the Weekly World News, it publishes news, whatever the tabloid sensationalism. The FBI had the laptop. There was no evidence of Russian involvement. The call to Facebook took place as Facebook was pledging to combat disinformation. The implication was clear, Facebook would believe that the FBI had reason to believe this was disinformation, and would work to suppress the story.
We don't need to ask what the FBI would do if the shoe was on the other foot, because we saw it firsthand. Putin having pee-tape kompromat of Trump? Come on. The Steele dossier was a collection of outright fabrications and lies talked up over drinks, which the FBI knew for a very long time. Did they admonish social media sites on the perils of disinformation? Of course not, they leaked it to the press and made sure to include it as evidence in support of FISA warrants for years. Carter Page was a CIA source, so of course a lawyer doctored an email, "in good faith", so he tells us, to make sure that it would look like he wasn't.
The FBI created this mess, and no one is going to clean it up for them. You can't blame the country for thinking you have no credibility when agents continue to be fired, reassigned, and "retired" for improper bias and prejudice that only ever goes one way.
2016 FBI/Social media relations and 2020+ FBI/Social media relations are a terrible comparison. social media misinformation "swinging the election" was nationwide news after 2016, 2020 and beyond actions are a result of this.
i am not pro-FBI nor am i pro-Social media, but this is a simple fact we have to recognize. the timeline exists. and this can be true and valid context even if the FBI is flooded with bureaucrats and biased individuals.
"they didnt suppress steel dossier information" is a silly argument. they didnt suppress anything. they allowed edited videos of HRC claiming she had liver cancer or w/e and was dying. the FBI under comey had to last minute release Wiener laptop news and if they hadnt it would have been front page foxnews/NY post headlines reporting the internal leak info and they'd have allowed that too. it was 2016.
as to facebook's desire to combat misinformation, DOUBT. its expensive and a lose/lose, facebook has a desire to skirt regulation and avoid bad headlines. they want to boost marketplace sales and ad traffic, misinformation isn't on their radar nearly as much as twitter, which is far more infested with far lefties.
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 29 2022 04:05pm)
Well, to be fair, actual pressure likely wasn't needed, considering the overt partisanship of big tech. To quote the Google CEO on the day after Trump's election: "We (sic) lost".
LOL! Pretty much every politically interested European knew about Russian troll farms since 2014, so the US intelligence community must have been aware of the threat too.
as a fringe issue it predates 2016, but brexit's vote and the 2016 presidential election were what put it on the forefront.
and recall when people first started talking about russian bot farms infesting every corner of social media and having an effect on the 2016 election most of right wingers called it tinfoil nonsense. then stories started to break about church groups protesting against antifa on the streets and we found out russian implicated trolls incited both sides just to get people angry.