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Trust me you don't want Chinese cyclists they are the absolute worst. Around my old uni they were incredibly obnoxious, zero awareness in traffic.

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Seeking to soothe feathers ruffled by comments from the US ambassador to Berlin, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert only made it worse by citing the Allied landings in Normandy as an example of US ties with Germany.
“We have a very strong relationship with the government of Germany,” Nauert said at a press briefing on Tuesday. “Looking back in the history books, today is the 71st anniversary of the speech that announced the Marshall Plan. Tomorrow is the anniversary of the D-Day invasion. We obviously have a very long history with the government of Germany, and we have a strong relationship with the government of Germany.”

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An article in Foreign Policy, entitled The Right to Kill: Should Brazil Keep Its Amazon Tribes from Taking the Lives of Their Children?, states:


The article goes on to identify the Suruwaha as another such indigenous group. It states that a few years ago, a couple there to study the Suruwaha language took a 5-year-old Suruwaha child who had hypothyroidism (an easily treated condition) to the state capital for medical attention. The child's parents had committed suicide rather than kill their child as the tribe wanted. The tribe's efforts to kill her by burying her alive had failed. When the couple brought the now-treated girl back to her tribe, nobody wanted her, so the couple adopted her themselves. Meanwhile, the public prosecutor had banished them from the Suruwaha territory. The anthropologist's report that undergirded the prosecutor's injunction argued that they were wrongdoers because they had let the Suruwahas know that there are alternatives to their traditional practices. Apparently, if you are unlucky enough to have been born to the Suruwahas, you must be kept in the dark about the alternatives in the outside world.

As of April, the Brazilian legislature was trying to do something about this issue. The Brazilian Association of Anthropology was opposing the proposal, arguing that "the most repressive and lethal actions ever perpetrated against the indigenous peoples of the Americas … were unfailingly justified through appeals to noble causes, humanitarian values and universal principles."

Call me a cultural bigot if you will, but I am so glad to have been born in a community where the city council members figured they'd get in trouble if they started* insisting that I be killed.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 7 2018 09:36am)

Some cultures are better than others exhibit #12

Brazilian Anthropologists Say Killing Twin, Disabled, or Transgender Children (Even When Their Parents Object) Ought to Be Tolerated, So Long as the Perpetrators are from One of Those ... Er ... Unassimilated Indigenous Tribes


http://reason.com/volokh/2018/06/07/brazilian-anthropologists-say-killing-tw

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 7 2018 11:43am)

I never thought I'd see the day that Cam supported the forced assimilation of cultures. These tribes aren't going to adhere to "do what you want, just plz dont kill kids". They need to have their entire way of life overhauled, or be left alone. They're nothing but zoo animals we advanced humans keep as pets in a large open air zoo we control and also reduce when we please.

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I've been pretty clear in my opposition to murder.

Its certainly possible to discourage people from murdering kids without having them completely assimilated, and to not scold people for discussing alternatives.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 7 2018 12:38pm)

I agree with that in all scenarios except for indigenous tribes. It's an entirely different ballgame. Many of these tribes, from an anthropological perspective such as the article is written in, should never have been contacted. Most of that contact is seen as problematic, so the reports we're getting in culture clashes between formerly uncontacted tribes and ranchers are as much of an anthropological issue as anything. Indigenous tribes are pandora's box. You can't meet someone who wears clothes that protect you from thorns, has a shiny box that shows video in their pocket, can create fire with a click, etc without it changing your entire culture. Limiting contact with these tribes (because we can assume that both contacted and uncontacted tribes in the area follow similar practices) should be avoided if we want to protect these cultures.

The way I see it your stance requires you to prioritize a statistically insignificant number of ritualistic murders over an entire culture's being. That's a choice anyone can make, and i don't find it immoral of course. But it's reality when dealing with this kind of cultural difference. Brazillian anthropologists are making the opposite choice, and i can't say how many lives are worth a culture, but my math includes things like cultures because i'm not overly focused on the individual alone. Thus my break from libertarian ideals.