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Sep 12 2016 11:16pm
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 12 2016 09:15pm)


>william lane craig

irony

Dennett is echelons better of a philosopher than WLC and I disagree with Dennett on everything.

also >names only the specifically Christian philosophers of religion, ignores the fact that the vast majority of modern analytic philosophy is atheistic

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My 3 years old son is way better than me to analyse a santa claus book because he believes in him, not me.

Actually all makes sense, no irony there.

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QUESTION 2
DOES THE PROPORTION OF RELIGIOUS BELIEF
OR ATHEISM IN A COUNTRY DETERMINE THE PEACE
OF THE COUNTRY?
There is no clear statistical relationship between either
the presence or the absence of religious belief and
conflict. Even at the extremes, the least peaceful
countries are not necessarily the most religious and vice
versa.
For example, when looking at the ten most
peaceful countries three would be described as highly
religious, and when looking at the ten least peaceful
nations two would be described as the least religious.
Conversely, the absence of religious belief, as manifested
by atheism, also sees no significant link to broader
societal peacefulness.


Referenced from the very same organization that did the Peacefulness study you cited.

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QUESTION 5
CAN RELIGION PLAY A POSITIVE ROLE IN PEACEBUILDING?
While a lot of analysis may focus on the negative role of
religion it is important to acknowledge the potential positive
role of religion in peacebuilding through inter-faith dialogue
and other religiously-motivated movements.It was found
that countries that had higher membership of religious
groups tended to be slightly more peaceful.


Whaddya know?

Frankly I'm confused by what you were referring to in the map anyway, because there's not that much overlap between the two maps. Just a misleading representation given how big Canada and Australia are.

Oh look:

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There is not a statistically meaningful relationship
between the levels of atheism or religious belief in a
country and its levels of peace.


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Four out of the ten countries with the highest levels of
atheism are less peaceful than the global average.


Fascinating.

http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Peace-and-Religion-Report.pdf

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Sep 18 2016 05:09am
Atheists are violent in more peaceful ways though. When was the last time an atheist chopped someone's head off with a blunt knife and started shaking it about on video?
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Referenced from the very same organization that did the Peacefulness study you cited.



Whaddya know?

Frankly I'm confused by what you were referring to in the map anyway, because there's not that much overlap between the two maps. Just a misleading representation given how big Canada and Australia are.

Oh look:





Fascinating.

http://economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Peace-and-Religion-Report.pdf



complaint because confused about two simple map illustration

write the most confusing post i saw in a while

post any world map and compare religion vs peace dude



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Quote (PKSubban @ Sep 18 2016 08:42am)
complaint because confused about two simple map illustration

write the most confusing post i saw in a while

post any world map and compare religion vs peace dude


My post wasn't confusing so try again. I suggest you focus on the quotes.

The very source of the map you made wrote an entire survey of religion and peace and definitively concluded that religion and atheism have no correlation with peacefulness.

The map you posted doesn't even show a correlation.


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Atheists are violent in more peaceful ways though. When was the last time an atheist chopped someone's head off with a blunt knife and started shaking it about on video?


When was the last time a Christian did? Or a mainstream Muslim for that matter? Really reaching to try to demonize religion. What about the numerous recent atheistic terrorist attacks?

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Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 18 2016 03:45pm)
My post wasn't confusing so try again. I suggest you focus on the quotes.

The very source of the map you made wrote an entire survey of religion and peace and definitively concluded that religion and atheism have no correlation with peacefulness.

The map you posted doesn't even show a correlation.




When was the last time a Christian did? Or a mainstream Muslim for that matter? Really reaching to try to demonize religion. What about the numerous recent atheistic terrorist attacks?


I'm sorry, but that really is not a reach.

The point is that atheism as such does not typically drive people to extremes of hate, vigilance, intolerance, etc. ISIS is indeed purely based on a strive for power -- not of a desire to spread Islam -- but their weapon is Islam. If it weren't for religion, they would be unable to indoctrinate people, they wouldn't be able to make people want to fight for something and die for something, etc.
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Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 18 2016 02:45pm)
When was the last time a Christian did? Or a mainstream Muslim for that matter? Really reaching to try to demonize religion. What about the numerous recent atheistic terrorist attacks?


The whole point of terrorism is that it isn't a mainstream ideology, but it still represents a problem if a tiny proportion of a religion engages in it. Has an atheist ever killed anyone before? I don't know. The truth is no one knows, Voyager.
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Sep 18 2016 09:01am
Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 18 2016 09:45am)
My post wasn't confusing so try again. I suggest you focus on the quotes.

The very source of the map you made wrote an entire survey of religion and peace and definitively concluded that religion and atheism have no correlation with peacefulness.

The map you posted doesn't even show a correlation.




When was the last time a Christian did? Or a mainstream Muslim for that matter? Really reaching to try to demonize religion. What about the numerous recent atheistic terrorist attacks?



you have no source about your own quotes and keep crying about sources

also,
"Four out of the ten countries with the highest levels of
atheism are less peaceful than the global average."

:rofl: so much reverent and not bias




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